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re: Fact or Fiction: The true reason behind the Monument Removal
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:40 pm to Jimmy2shoes
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:40 pm to Jimmy2shoes
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FACT: Nothing will change from removing statues
Then why does this bother you?
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:40 pm to volod
The ignorant find it easier to destroy history rather than learn from it.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:43 pm to upgrayedd
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People call me crazy for making that point, but it's an inevitability. These people do not stop.
I think it is geared towards slowly judging our founders and taking down USA nationalism so that open boarders and world unity/ government can take place.
Easy target guys who fought for the South and in today's history slavery. Then once established you go after Andrew Johnson types and work your way to George Washington.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:43 pm to ItTakesAThief
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No other President in history has been treated this way
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:44 pm to volod
It's all of the above.
That's why it's a complicated issue. Some whites feel guilty and are Marxist so they want to pander to poor blacks and other delusional liberals; some whites and some blacks don't give a shite about it: some blacks want to use it as an excuse, aka it's the boogeyman's fault.
That's why it's a complicated issue. Some whites feel guilty and are Marxist so they want to pander to poor blacks and other delusional liberals; some whites and some blacks don't give a shite about it: some blacks want to use it as an excuse, aka it's the boogeyman's fault.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:46 pm to volod
quote:I've literally never heard this angle before. Sounds silly tbh. Statues of dudes that lost a war isn't very intimidating is it?
The statues were built with the primary purpose of intimidating blacks post reconstruction era.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:48 pm to volod
I wish more black people like yourself would be more vocal. Ones that realize there are much bigger problems facing the black community than giant chunks of metal. I know there a lot of black people who feel the same way but I think they just keep silent in fear of being called an Uncle Tom.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:51 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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I wish more black people like yourself would be more vocal. Ones that realize there are much bigger problems facing the black community than giant chunks of metal. I know there a lot of black people who feel the same way but I think they just keep silent in fear of being called an Uncle Tom.
why speak out if you are indifferent?
seems like a waste of taxpayer money- otherwise I am indifferent
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:53 pm to volod
Removing them after a white guy kills a bunch of black people in a church, as if it's whites general attitude towards blacks that's the cause of inter-racial violence, is a great way to gin up a bunch of racial strife.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:54 pm to volod
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built with the primary purpose of intimidating blacks
Too bad they lost all their magic...
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:54 pm to Montezuma
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FACT: Nothing will change from removing statues
Then why does this bother you?
Probably because he feels that $2 million dollars could have been spent on something that will actually help New Orleans and the black community. Use that money to beef the police force, or fix the roads, or fix the broken education system. Fix the broken drainage pumps. Fed the homeless, start more drug rehab programs. I could probably name 1,000 things that would actually help the black community. Tearing down lifeless chunks of metal does nothing for them.
It's a complete misuse of taxpayer money that was never voted on by the NO citizens. That's why the majority of people are so upset. Not because they idolize Gen. Beauregard and worship him for having slaves.
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:57 pm to Mr. Hangover
Well, there were efforts to achieve civil rights prior to WW2. However, most of these grass movements didn't get enough influence for political change.
All I am saying is that statues could have been a discouraging force. People simply felt that nothing would change the Southern dynamic of using oppression on a minority.
It is only an assumption, as anything can be interpreted from a symbol. It is not the primary reason why we have so much strife today.
All I am saying is that statues could have been a discouraging force. People simply felt that nothing would change the Southern dynamic of using oppression on a minority.
It is only an assumption, as anything can be interpreted from a symbol. It is not the primary reason why we have so much strife today.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:57 pm to volod
I was pissed in New Orleans because the city has so many problems, it was a total waste of money they could've used on other things like the S&WB..
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 12:58 pm to thelawnwranglers
quote:
why speak out if you are indifferent?
seems like a waste of taxpayer money- otherwise I am indifferent
If you see it as a waste of $2 million dollars than you're not indifferent. I'm the same way. I don't care about the statues themselves but I'd rather see the money go towards something that will actually help the black community.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:06 pm to upgrayedd
I agree with slackster and disagree with upgrayedd
The majority of People in their heart of hearts dont truly care about the statues and what they supposedly stand for(states rights, history, etc etc)
They are just pissed off about the idiocracy of the left that wants them down so they dug in for the fight(which I completely understand and agree with)
The majority of People in their heart of hearts dont truly care about the statues and what they supposedly stand for(states rights, history, etc etc)
They are just pissed off about the idiocracy of the left that wants them down so they dug in for the fight(which I completely understand and agree with)
Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:09 pm to volod
Here's my question to you as a white woman: After all the monuments come down, are African Americans going to STFU about the slavery stuff and quit being so angry? My family immigrated here legally from Austria in the early 1900's. We had nothing to do with slavery in this country. Yes, slavery was horrible, but we cannot go back and erase what happened. I grew up during the time of separate white and black water fountains and bathrooms. As a little kid, I thought that was really wrong and did not make sense. My parents did not teach me to be racist. From a family having nothing to do with that, I am sick of hearing that shite. It was well over a century ago. Let it go.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:09 pm to SirWinston
Harlem Renaissance
Black Wall Street
Blacks make history even to this day ( you just have to look a little bit harder for it
)Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:09 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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go towards something that will actually help the black community.
yeah I like hey lets go back to color blind or try to get there and just try to help community
Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:13 pm to thelawnwranglers
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yeah I like hey lets go back to color blind or try to get there and just try to help community
>This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 8/21/17 at 1:15 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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Probably because he feels that $2 million dollars could have been spent on something that will actually help New Orleans and the black community.
I believe that to be rational. However, do you believe this is the pervasive logic of the people triggered by "lifeless chunks of metal" being removed? I would think the waste of government money in the state of LA and New Orleans specifically has been so common, that to be up in arms over it (including in non-Louisiana cases, like Charlottesville and Austin) seems like your rational point is not the unanimous disposition of the muh statue crowd.
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