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re: F King Alexander leaving LSU

Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:39 am to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40038 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 2:39 am to
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you are skeptical and would bet.


This is from what two administrators who participated in the USNWR told me themselves. Think about it reasonably. How would Michigan State's Dean of the College of Agriculture know anything about the quality of the Univeristy of Alabama's English Department? The older USNWR rankings, which used a 1.0 to 5.0 scale, were almost entirely reliant on this metric.

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You thought tank would improve. With no basis.


I don't know what this means.

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The statement was that it was decent for a state school. It isn’t. And certainly not for the flagship state school. It’s that simple.


And I'm arguing, given my extensive experience at flagship state schools, that the qualitative difference between each was so ephemeral that it probably doesn't exist. Again, when half of the stated methodology is based on factors other than academics, such as social mobility, Pell Grant graduation rates, and alumni giving, how are these metrics meaningful in terms of the actual education?

I'm actually not at all invested in this, but my experience at supposed top 100 schools has made me entirely distrustful of the rankings themselves.
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 2:41 am
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6607 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 3:48 am to
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I'm actually not at all invested in this, but my experience at supposed top 100 schools has made me entirely distrustful of the rankings themselves.


I agree with much of what you write. Your point concerning faculty teaching vs GTAs is spot on. Even when instructors were relied upon, departments would often source outside professionals with grad level degrees, not simply any grad students they could muster. What kills LSU has been the 20-30 year cycle of budget cuts. It decimates faculty/leadership and turns away quality new hires.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49203 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:24 am to
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Zappas Stache
We get it dude, you and F King are gay lovers. NTTAWWT

Now, get out this thread and let us celebrate.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:24 am to
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Whoever replaces him needs to completely clean house and eliminate 50% of LSU’s bloated administrative positions.



Jay won't do that
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51613 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 4:30 am to
Jay?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42752 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 5:19 am to
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LSU is way behind other flagship schools from nearby states. Texas....ok...way out of Louisiana's league....Alabama....way better,,,,Florida....Georgia....even Oklahoma, who I hope we trounce on December 28th, kicks our arse academically. Why is that?


Because people like King push for positions like diversity coordinators at a salary of $300K/year that provide no real improvement or benefit to the university.

He pushes wholistic admission policies as opposed to rigorous standards in the name of fairness as opposed to the name of merit and then wonders why we have more low achieving people in LSU than other places.

As for why we are behind other places financially and academically that aren’t specifically due to King, look at the number of 4 year institutions Louisiana has hat are essentially jobs programs for state employees but are shifty schools. Also look at what the legislature did to TOPS. It used to be a reward for high achieving students and an incentive to keep the beat and brightest in state. Now, they butchered it into another state handout to almost any dimwit, again in the name of fairness, and it has become an albatross
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:03 am to
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Whoever replaces him needs to completely clean house and eliminate 50% of LSU’s bloated administrative positions. 


You new to Louisiana?
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
6786 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:04 am to
Stephen Moret come home
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61798 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:10 am to
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Jay?
Jay Darden, the next hcic.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124949 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:14 am to
Stick to the beer threads, guy
Posted by Alleman
St. George
Member since Apr 2013
741 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:21 am to
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Jay?
Jay Dardenne.
His move to LSU makes room for John Alario to become Commissioner of Administration.

I hope I am wrong and neither happens.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:25 am to
Anyone confirm this report?
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14476 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:29 am to
Otherwise, your 49th or 50th in every other regard.
—looks like you’re the dumbass
Posted by MissWalkOn
Member since Nov 2019
217 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:34 am to
Let’s hope it’s not Jay Dardene. There’s Been a lot of rumors about that. Why would we just go with the homeboy?
I hope there is a legitimate search
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42752 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:36 am to
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hope there is a legitimate search


Now that King is gone, I hope the state actually performs one
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
7268 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:37 am to
Great news.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:37 am to
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Stephen Moret come home


This is the name I heard! This would be the best case scenario for LSU in my opinion.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:39 am to
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What kills LSU has been the 20-30 year cycle of budget cuts. It decimates faculty/leadership and turns away quality new hires.


LSU is currently struggling to find qualified candidates to fill executive level positions in HR (open for nearly a year) and IT. They also had to reopen several searches to find new Deans

A common question from all candidates during the interview process varies on “How have the budget cuts hurt? Are they over?”
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38232 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:39 am to
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LSU still an academic shite hole. Congrats.


It’s always going to underachieve. The only person in modern times to push LSU forward was Mark Emmeret and he didn’t really push it forward, he pulled it up from the depths it had fallen. LSU is a microcosm if the state in that it’s always behind so any progress is more about catching up and keeping pace instead of leading or excelling.
But people like FKA are why people like Emmeret look so damn good.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42752 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:42 am to
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common question from all candidates during the interview process varies on “How have the budget cuts hurt? Are they over?”


If our stupid state allowed across the board cuts as opposed to only higher ed and hospitals (designed to actually hurt the residents the most) they would be
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