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re: Ever had a naturally violent kid?

Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32574 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:14 am to
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should I stop play wrestling with her?

I mean this sincerely, are you retarded?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32574 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:20 am to
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My 4 yo old daughter has been a terror since she could walk and talk. Been kicked out of 2 daycares. Gets irrationally violent and throwing things when angry and says the meanest things possible. We have tried every sort of parenting you can think of from spanking, time out, taking away rewards, etc etc. you name it we’ve tried it.

Kids learn via observation, so....
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14784 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:26 am to
My cousin was 5 y/o and used to randomly pull my little 4 y/o nephew's hair, or bite him, or scratch his face, seemingly for no reason.

My cousin was regularly beaten by my aunt or by many of her druggie boyfriend's, before she started living out of a van with her 4 kids, before social services took the kids away from her.

My cousin is currently in jail in Florida with a long record of violence & burglary.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21189 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:26 am to
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My daughter is 2 and just started day care.


too young to be put in the care of strangers.
Posted by PillPusher
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2009
5711 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:28 am to
You’re right. I’m a violent drunk who beats my wife and breaks stuff around the house. I should have known.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96060 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:30 am to
I had one who was not gentle and the main reasons for it were delayed speech, when younger, and not being able to talk out their emotions well, when older.


Speech therapy helped fix the first issue.

Regular therapy and medication helped with the second but they still get punchy when they haven’t eaten.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
1221 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:37 am to
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We did put her in BJJ and she loves it and is taking boys down like it’s nothing. I won’t say it’s a cure but it has helped to some degree by instilling some discipline from someone other than us her parents as well as letting her be rough.


The BJJ is likely working because it's giving her the sensory input she is seeking. Similar to how football and wrestling has helped our son.

If it progresses you may want to consider working with an OT to develop additional strategies.

Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
57356 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:52 am to
My son is naturally playfully aggressive, but I wouldn't say violent.

He did get in trouble a good bit in preschool for biting (once so bad, he bruised a poor girl's face), but what toddler doesn't go through that phase?

He's in kindergarten now and his teacher has told me to remind him that the playground is not a place to wrestle, and to keep his hands to himself in the classroom. I had to fuss at him at basketball a few weeks ago because he was just sitting on the bench slapping his two really good friends for no reason, thinking it was hilarious. And last week he was whacking his best friend on the bench with his water bottle.

He's not trying to be mean or violent, but as a parent it does get extremely frustrating because I have explained endless times how to behave and treat others.

quote:

Will she grow out of this as long as we keep constantly disciplining her and should I stop play wrestling with her?


I suggest you stop wrestling, kids watch and listen to everything. They can't tell the difference that it is ok to do with you and not their friends.

To the first part, discipline has NEVER worked for my son, ever. He'd rather do the wrong act and suffer the consequences. We have to work off a reward system, his preschool used to have to do the same for him. Worked much better for us.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32574 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:56 am to
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You’re right. I’m a violent drunk who beats my wife and breaks stuff around the house. I should have known.

Damn, your kid is drinking, too?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27396 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:57 am to
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My daughter is 2 and just started day care. She’s not a mean kid but she loves to wrestle and she laughs anytime I swat her leg, but this week 3 days into going to daycare she’s already tackled another kid, hit a kid and put a kid in a chokehold. The workers said it wasn’t out of jealousy over a toy or because she was mad but she did it just because she thought it was funny. I told them to punish her however they need to but I just don’t understand how a two year old girl is naturally violent. Will she grow out of this as long as we keep constantly disciplining her and should I stop play wrestling with her?




My niece was like that as a kid. She's a lawyer now.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16071 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:29 am to
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My son is naturally playfully aggressive, but I wouldn't say violent.
this would be a better way to describe my daughter. She doesn’t hit people when she’s sad or angry when she gets in trouble she gets sad and tends to go be by herself. She only gets physical when she’s playing
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20915 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:44 am to
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What meds are you using? We have a 7 yo boy who is very hyper. Wife is strongly against meds. I think it may have to be considered. Really struggling to focus in school.


Focalin XR.
I was strongly against meds too. But I exhausted about everything else to help, and the problems persisted. And falling behind in school is a big deal.

If I were you, I would tell the wife that you should at least try meds. If you don't like the results, then stop using them.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 10:46 am
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20915 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:49 am to
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He's in kindergarten now and his teacher has told me to remind him that the playground is not a place to wrestle, and to keep his hands to himself in the classroom. I had to fuss at him at basketball a few weeks ago because he was just sitting on the bench slapping his two really good friends for no reason, thinking it was hilarious. And last week he was whacking his best friend on the bench with his water bottle.

He's not trying to be mean or violent, but as a parent it does get extremely frustrating because I have explained endless times how to behave and treat others.


This is my kid to a T. We tried punishing for bad behavior (taking away toys) and rewards for good behavior. Punishing didn't seem to help at all to change his behavior. Sure, he'd get upset when losing toys, but he'd still do the same bad behaviors. Rewarding good behavior seemed to have some effect, but then it got to a point, but had diminishing returns over time.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4317 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 10:55 am to
First day in daycare by daughter got bit by another kid so hard that we had to take her to the doctor. Ended up getting a shot and antibiotics for the bite.
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2291 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:33 am to
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My niece was like that as a kid. She's a lawyer now.

So you are saying that she went from bad to worse?
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18807 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:15 pm to
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too young to be put in the care of strangers


No shite. People DV the hell out of responses like this, but there is literally nothing more important to your child’s well-being than being raised by a parent in the home for the first 4-5 years of their life. Day care should not exist because kids should be at home till at least kindergarten. Anything else is selling your kid short in life.

But we’ve concluded that material things are more important than their kids getting love from their parent instead of being put in a room with 10 other kids watched by one or two underpaid people who aren’t capable of loving or giving the child the attention they need to thrive that they would get from a parent.

And we wonder why kids now are so depressed, angry, confused and anxious. Wake up, folks.
Posted by LetTheTigerOut
Member since Dec 2019
753 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:32 pm to
Noooo, nothing to worry about whatsoever. Perfectly normal. She sounds sweet.

This will be the daycare, soon.

Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14229 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:51 pm to
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It’s cute now but won’t be when she’s getting suspended from kindergarten and they are talking “special” classes. Stop roughhousing with her, even as a joke. Teach her to use her words. If she’s naturally “active”, get her into sports and other physical activities to get her energy out and possibly give her the chance to excel at something.


Very good post. Kids do all types of weird things and you have to use parenting to teach them not to do it. You don’t know what she’s been exposed to outside of your home so do your dad thing.
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