ImaObserver

Unfortunately, the recent pages on this thread reek of cat piss. When you get a couple of feral pussy cats tangling they don't want to quit until neither one of them has any fur left to pull. Maybe they both need a quick hosing down to distract them and cool them off. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

This Dirty River is Still Used for Drinking | (Ganges River) The Sacred but Polluted River

I began my engineering career 69 years ago so I have to bring to your attention that this will all have been designed using slide rules and mechanical calculators and the blueprints drawn by hand on drafting tables using pencils, straight edges, squares, compasses, and other manual tools.
It was a design process of many years before the first physical construction began.

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outliers include some young baws and old timer baw's knocking on heaven's door

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PRESENT !

I hope I don't upset the balance too bad at 89+ :booboo:

Looks like you put a lot of hard work into that thing, but you built something that your grandkids and great grands can still be enjoying long after you are gone. :thup: :thup:

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The one that drives me crazy nowadays is following every thought or sentence with a random “yep” or “yeah”. I hear both men and women doing this and it just irritates me to no end.

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Start throwing a few "Halleluiah's". "Praise the Lord" or "Allah's Words" in place of their "Yep's" or "yeahs" and see how they respond. :lol:

Removing the penny from circulation opens up a slot in the cash drawer for the dollar coin and assists in removing the paper dollar from circulation.
Next will be the $5 coin made from zinc and the $10 coin made from lead because lead is more precious for other purposes.

You don't suppose it is because they are calling European Red Deer? :lol: :lol:

Seems as though someone has pulled back the curtains. Check your state, county, or zip code to see who is selling out America. It is expected of some of the technology people but it is alarming what our medical and educational institutions are doing as well.

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Some references regarding citizenship:

Birthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th Amendment LINK

What ‘Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof’ Really Means LINK

Page 73 - Decision Slaughter-House Cases (invalidates "Anchor Babies")
""All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." The first observation we have to make on this clause is, that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, "subject to its jurisdiction" was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States."

From the Senate debate on the 14th Amendment:
"Howard, when introducing the addition to the Amendment, stated that it was "the law of the land already" and that it excluded only "persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers". Others also agreed that the children of ambassadors and foreign ministers were to be excluded. Concerning the children born in the United States to parents who are not U.S. citizens (and not foreign diplomats), however, three senators, including Trumbull, as well as President Andrew Johnson, debated how both the Civil Rights Act and the Citizenship Clause could confer citizenship on them at birth, and Trumbull stated that "What do we [the committee reporting the clause] mean by 'subject to the jurisdiction of the United States'? Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means."[18] Senator Reverdy Johnson of Maryland commented that subject to the jurisdiction thereof in the proposed amendment undoubtedly meant the same thing as "not subject to some foreign power",--"

Wong Kim-Arc:
"In United States v. Wong Kim Ark, the Supreme Court held that, under the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, a man born within the United States to foreigners (in that case, Chinese citizens) who have a legal permanent domicile and residence in the United States and are carrying on business in the United States and who were not employed in a diplomatic or other official capacity by a foreign power, was a citizen of the United States. More broadly, the court characterized the statement, All persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States as "the broad and clear words of the Constitution", ruling that Wong's U.S. citizenship had been acquired by birth and had not been lost or taken away by anything happening since his birth.

In Steel Co. v. Citizens for a Better Environment (1998) the court said “jurisdiction is a word of many, too many, meanings.” Therefore, it is important to discover the operational meaning behind “subject to the jurisdiction” as employed under the Fourteenth Amendment rather than assuming its meaning from other usages of the word jurisdiction alone. Both Sen. Trumbull and Sen. Howard provide the answer, with Trumbull declaring:
> The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof?’ Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.