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re: Even a Princeton PhD cant get a job

Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
75082 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:02 pm to
SFP, it’s disappointing seeing you peddle this stuff. Usually you are better than that


The very fact that this dude found *2300* jobs to apply for is literal proof that there is no shortage of openings
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485934 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:04 pm to
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The very fact that this dude found *2300* jobs to apply for is literal proof that there is no shortage of openings


You need to educate yourself. Start here:

Ghost Job

The 2300 number means nothing.

The landscape has changed.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4401 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:04 pm to
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They have no concept of the AI gatekeeping going on before you even get an interview, then the multi-stage interview process.


This. so much this. i spent the last year trying to find a gig. like, actual, honest to god trying. Made multiple resumes using the best AI tools at multiple sites to get them in as good as shape as possible for submission to the AI gatekeepers. used AI to help me write multiple cover letters and i would then tailor them to the role. I treated every single application like it was a term paper at Harvard. 100 apps later, i got two phones calls and one in person interview for a PM role that i would have turned down 15 years ago.

In person networking cracked the code. i punch way above my weight in person. Most of us do, especially us rascals from South LA. The job hunt these days is so comically demeaning it almost should be cause for a revolution in and of itself. And, like you said, unless you've had to do this like your next mortgage payment depends on it, you have no idea what the struggle is like out there.
Posted by derp
Jawja
Member since Feb 2015
1542 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:04 pm to
You deny it? Explain
Posted by caill430
Da Dirty Dell
Member since Jul 2005
1520 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:06 pm to
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Amazon and their 3rd party contractors are hiring delivery drivers in droves. 4 10’s at $20-$24 an hour with benefits and probable OT. 3 days paid training then wheels up. Perfect seasonal bridge job if you’re in limbo career wise.


Only on paper. I’ve been out of work for a year and have applied to Amazon for a full time with benefits position and haven’t gotten on. They have a distribution center 2 miles from my house. Luckily, I have saved well and have another revenue stream to keep me level. I know several friends and former colleagues that are well over a year unemployed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485934 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:07 pm to
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And, like you said, unless you've had to do this like your next mortgage payment depends on it, you have no idea what the struggle is like out there.


Let me be clear. I don't have personal experience here. I own my own business. But I've read a LOT on the issue, listened to podcasts, and watched a ton of YT videos about it.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
75082 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:10 pm to
Well somehow hundreds of thousands of people apply for and get jobs every month

You are committing the fallacy of composition

You are assuming that, because the job market is weird in technical niche industries, it is weird overall

Nobody is having trouble getting jobs in things like insurance analyst, data entry, utility billing specialist, customer support, health insurance, etc
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
4191 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:14 pm to
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Learn a trade.. make alot of money

It’s a lot of money if you come from nothing. It’s barely any money if you come from decent stock.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
38498 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:14 pm to
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Well somehow hundreds of thousands of people apply for and get jobs every month


And those job openings often stay “open” making it appear more jobs are available.

Is this really that hard?
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
1227 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:16 pm to
There's more to this.

Some people are simply unemployable.

One of my relatives is married to a guy like that. Highly educated and will never work a day in his life.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485934 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

You are committing the fallacy of composition

You are assuming that, because the job market is weird in technical niche industries, it is weird overall


Re-read my post

quote:

I have read a lot about the struggles of professionals getting jobs,


quote:

professionals


This has no impact on trades or unskilled workers getting jobs associated with the data center boom.


Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
37181 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:17 pm to
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30 years old with zero job experience is a huge red flag. I don’t care how many degrees you have.



30 years old, no job experience and a PhD
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176591 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:18 pm to
He should be working with several recruiters. I'd hire the dude with a good paying job if he applied where I work. It might not necessarily be in his field but he could get some work experience in the meantime.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24943 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:18 pm to
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he’s environmentally conscious


What does that have to do with being able to get a job, Pops?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485934 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:19 pm to
I imagine his issue is geographical more than anything.

I'm sure he could get a job, just not where he wants to live
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
75082 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:20 pm to
Ok, but job hunting is like investing

You have to be diversified

And you have to be willing to take steep pay cuts if needed

I’ve had no problem applying for an accepting a customer support or billing roll with a 30-40% income reduction if I lost my job
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
47108 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:22 pm to
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Tough to even get past the AI gates and into actual interviews.


Not only AI gates, but HR in general. You're basically being gatekept by an AWFL. They are the ultimate arbiters of what makes it to the hiring manager, and if you're in a technical field without inside contacts, you are absolutely fricked. Either through sheer incompetence and ignorance by Karen and her HR friends, or through outright hostility from them because of who and what you are.

Posted by OlGrandad
Member since Oct 2009
4795 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:23 pm to
He could teach high school but probably feels that is below him.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
8215 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:27 pm to
The US Navy would hire him tomorrow.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
47108 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:31 pm to
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The US Navy would hire him tomorrow.


That's the other part of this equation. Is he open to relocate, to include to places that aren't on his ideal list of places to live?? Is he open to working for a company that's also not "ideal", even for a couple years?

Unless I missed something in the article, I'd venture to guess one or both of the above is coming in to play that he's not being honest about.
This post was edited on 10/18/26 at 12:31 pm
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