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Even a Princeton PhD cant get a job

Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:40 am
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
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Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:40 am
My baws. I know the finding a job struggle is real. Too many here know just how painful it is. Came across the linked article below this am. Its WSJ and paywall but ill post the juicy buts out there.

The struggle is real and my heart goes out to all of you trying to navigate these mine fields.

A Princeton Ph. D Applied to 2,300 Jobs. He AStill can't get one.


JACK WEIS likes to joke that he’s just another unemployed guy living in his parents’ basement.

That leaves out a few key details: The Salt Lake City native has applied to more than 2,300 jobs since he graduated from Princeton in 2024 with his Ph.D. in chemical engineering. And he still doesn’t have a job.

He first pursued corporate science jobs and prestigious postdoctoral fellowships at national laboratories. Then he cast a wider net, applying to software engineering and other roles. Eventually, he was getting ghosted for food-preparation jobs, including at a company that sells frozen crab cakes.

For a time, Weis got a gig training AI on his expertise, including in engineering and fluid mechanics. That work dried up too.

I first interviewed Weis late last year, the day before his 30th birthday. Covering careers and the labor market, I endeavored to meet job seekers in all 50 states, hoping it would help me understand why many people felt so dim about their futures. Just 34% of Americans surveyed by Gallup in August said it was a good time to find a quality job.

The picture remains murky. The latest jobs report fell far short of expectations. The unemployment rate remains low, but the percentage of unemployed people out of work for 27 weeks or more was higher this summer than it’s been for more than a decade, with the exception of Covid-19 and its immediate aftermath.



He soon widened his search geographically, and by industry. He sent hundreds of cover letters and résumés through job portals and often didn’t get an interview. He networked with Princeton and Rice alumni. He scoured classified ads in the Salt Lake Tribune. He read PitchBook updates to find startups that recently got influxes of cash, thinking it might result in job openings.

His mother, Dr. Holly Carveth, said she looked at her son’s applications, wondering if there was a red flag that made employers hesitate, but nothing stood out. They seemed to be well written. “It’s quite surprising,” she said. “I don’t know how to put it together.”

As the months ticked by, Weis found himself stumbling on dates when the topic of work came up. At first, he said, he would tell the person across the table that he had recently finished his Ph.D. A year later, “it feels a little odd to say that,” he said.

Weis and many job candidates I interviewed described job interviews that happened without humans—the applicants made a video recording of themselves responding to questions posed digitally on the call. Such a process is increasingly common in the application process: More than 60% of U.S. job seekers surveyed by Greenhouse said they had been interviewed by the technology in the last year.



WEIS WAS THOUGHTFUL about the strange economic dichotomy many people in his position were experiencing. Since Weis defended his dissertation two years ago, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at record highs more than 50 times.

Staying in his childhood home, Weis has saved money and made some investments. He didn’t take on debt for his postgraduate degree—doctoral students are paid to do research rather than paying large sums in tuition.

“It’s cool that my stocks keep going up, I’m not mad about that,” he said earlier this year. “But it does make it a whole lot stranger.”

His parents compare notes with others whose adult children are struggling to find work. They remain shocked by the situation, and worry about their son’s ability to put down roots and one day have a family.



“We never dreamed he would have issues. He’s an Eagle Scout, he helps others, he’s environmentally conscious, he’s physically fit,” his father, Dr. John Weis, told me. “He’s smarter than I am, he’s more articulate than I am. He’s got an encyclopedic knowledge of history.”

Weis wonders if he should go to law school. He signed up for the LSAT in November. He has gotten involved in the Utah GOP and has sent petitions for rule making to federal agencies, including one urging the decoupling of employment and health insurance. (If fewer people stay in jobs for insurance, he reasons, there could be more openings.) He is also trying his hand at entrepreneurship. He used AI to design a drone with LED lasers to kill myrtle spurge, an invasive weed. “If I truly believe I have some value, I should go out and get it,” he says.

He still applies to new fellowships as they come up. In October, he unlocked his job-application account at the Los Alamos National Laboratory and realized that a role he applied for in 2024 had finally been filled.

For two years, the status had remained static: “Review in progress.”
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104625 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:43 am to
I've heard it's brutal out there for white collar jobs. Tough to even get past the AI gates and into actual interviews.

Glad I'm not on the hunt.
Posted by derp
Jawja
Member since Feb 2015
1542 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:45 am to
Learn a trade.. make alot of money
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15607 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:45 am to
quote:

That leaves out a few key details: The Salt Lake City native has applied to more than 2,300 jobs since he graduated from Princeton in 2024 with his Ph.D. in chemical engineering. And he still doesn’t have a job.


Let's talk about Jack, the person, and what he's done to tarnish his chances at a career.

100% his social media is a garbage fire.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
75082 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:45 am to
This story smells like total bs

This dude is likely being extremely niche and picky with the type of jobs he is applying too


Any company would gladly hire this guy for a generic office role such as billing specialist, customer service specialist, etc

The state or county govt would also likely hire this guy

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
152078 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:46 am to
30 years old with zero job experience is a huge red flag. I don’t care how many degrees you have.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
3045 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:46 am to
I for one am shocked employers aren't jumping on a chemical engineer applying for non chemical engineer jobs.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104625 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Any company would gladly hire this guy for a generic office role such as billing specialist, customer service specialist, etc


No, they will see him as overqualified and likely to bolt as soon as he gets a job offer in his field.
Posted by Sampson
10th state chartered
Member since Mar 2012
25309 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:52 am to
Amazon and their 3rd party contractors are hiring delivery drivers in droves. 4 10’s at $20-$24 an hour with benefits and probable OT. 3 days paid training then wheels up. Perfect seasonal bridge job if you’re in limbo career wise.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
75082 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:53 am to
Fine, but there is still a lot more to this story

A phd in chemical engineering should easily give you an avenue for any of the following industries

1) oil and gas
2) pharmaceutical
3) environmental (compliance, haz waste, profiling, etc)

Also, someone with a pHd generally has all sorts of networking unlocked. Why the f isn’t he seeking jobs that way?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
49424 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:54 am to
I guarantee if he applied for jobs from Houston to BR at each of the O&G Companies and Consulting Firms, he would have landed a job.

He probably thinks those jobs are beneath him.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4401 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Let's talk about Jack, the person, and what he's done to tarnish his chances at a career.

100% his social media is a garbage fire.


Undoubtedly. but what i found fascinating is the screening process and the AI crap and even networking not being able to yield results for him. The getting a notification 2 years after he applied for a job was kinda funny too. If you've looked for a job in the last two years this shite hits different, i promise you.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4401 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:56 am to
quote:

I guarantee if he applied for jobs from Houston to BR at each of the O&G Companies and Consulting Firms, he would have landed a job.

He probably thinks those jobs are beneath him.


that was my assumption as well. Dude could make beaucoup money offshore with a resume like that. something tells me he would break his hands grabbing the rope to swing aboard though lol
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104625 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Fine, but there is still a lot more to this story


Probably so.

He should also have a pretty easy path to a job in Academia.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Arrogant Dickweed
Member since Jun 2004
199616 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:56 am to
Rice

a white guy
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6439 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:57 am to
Over-qualified probably
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5852 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:58 am to
The fact he’s talking about taking the LSAT is a dead giveaway that he is just pretending to job seek and he really wants to be a student forever.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
485910 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:58 am to
I have read a lot about the struggles of professionals getting jobs, especially outside of a few non-glamorous markets (primarily in the South), and I think there is a disconnect with what its like and people who haven't had to apply for a competitive job in a long time. They have no concept of the AI gatekeeping going on before you even get an interview, then the multi-stage interview process.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
19222 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 11:59 am to
Derp
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
38496 posts
Posted on 10/18/26 at 12:01 pm to
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30 years old with zero job experience is a huge red flag. I don’t care how many degrees you have.


What about 30 years old, felonies, and a couple stints in rehab?
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