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Do you think the process to getting a driver’s license in the US is too easily attained?
Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:46 am
Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:46 am
I regularly watch a good many videos on driving vehicles and riding motorcycles in the UK, and the one thing that really stands out is that it sure seems to be a pretty arduous and comprehensive process compared to that of the US. An extensive amount of time and emphasis is placed on theory and actual driving testing where it’s not uncommon for people to have to put in some real time and effort into passing it after failing it multiple times. We tend to kind of push people on through and get them on the road to buy that gasoline and keep the economic machine rolling along.
I believe that this contributes largely to the amount of deaths on the roads here to that of the UK where you’re 2.5 times more likely to die in an automobile accident here than the UK. I’d have to imagine the number of accidents per capita is also significantly higher here as well. Why would this not be correlated to the low bar we’ve set for operating a vehicle?
I believe that this contributes largely to the amount of deaths on the roads here to that of the UK where you’re 2.5 times more likely to die in an automobile accident here than the UK. I’d have to imagine the number of accidents per capita is also significantly higher here as well. Why would this not be correlated to the low bar we’ve set for operating a vehicle?
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:52 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:57 am to Mike da Tigah
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I believe that this contributes largely to the amount of deaths on the roads here to that of the UK where you’re 2.5 times more likely to die in an automobile accident here than the UK.
Source?
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:00 am to Mike da Tigah
Yes, more rigorous training and testing would be an improvement. Never gonna happen though.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:02 am to Mike da Tigah
I can't imagine a more stringent driving training than what they do in Germany.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:03 am to Mike da Tigah
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you’re 2.5 times more likely to die in an automobile accident here than the UK.
We probably just need to start driving on the other side of the road. It seems twice as safe.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:11 am to Mike da Tigah
A motor vehicle is way more dangerous than a firearm. We treat driving as a right when it should be scrutinized as much as anything else with the potential to kill multiple people when operated improperly.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:16 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Source?
ChatGPT, but it’s actually 4.8 times. I read that wrong
In any case, below is a link to the CDC comparing 1st world countries from around 7 years ago. Pretty interesting
LINK
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:18 am to Mike da Tigah
Not when you have a new teenage driver in Texas.
I about went ballistic going through that bullshite.
Here's an example: You must provide a Verification of Enrollment (VOE) in school (but it's July and the freaking school is closed).
I about went ballistic going through that bullshite.
Here's an example: You must provide a Verification of Enrollment (VOE) in school (but it's July and the freaking school is closed).
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:19 am to Mike da Tigah
As with everything in the USA, freedom has consequences. Just about everything bad is worse in America. The price of freedom. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:20 am to Mike da Tigah
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believe that this contributes largely to the amount of deaths on the roads here
People driving like fricking idiots is the cause, way too fast, way too agressive.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:26 am to Mike da Tigah
Bring back drivers Ed, and teach people to drive in the right lane and pass in the left. Fine left lane cruisers
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:27 am to Mike da Tigah
My experiences in Japan:
18 is the age for getting a license. I don't think its a big difference.
You have 2 options to get a license:
1. Go to the DMV and take the test directly. You may pass the written test on the first try. You WILL FAIL the driving portion on the first try, probably on the second and you might pass on the 3rd. You have to wait a few weeks between attemps and pay the fees each time.
2. Go to a driving school and pay $2000-$4000 and take classes for 3-6 months. You'll pass the written and the driving on the first try.
Its mostly a trial of endurance, commitment and financial sacrifice
Are the drivers in Japan better than the US? Id say generally yes, but they still have bad drivers. I think temperament towards driving is more of a difference. Very little road rage or super aggressive driving
18 is the age for getting a license. I don't think its a big difference.
You have 2 options to get a license:
1. Go to the DMV and take the test directly. You may pass the written test on the first try. You WILL FAIL the driving portion on the first try, probably on the second and you might pass on the 3rd. You have to wait a few weeks between attemps and pay the fees each time.
2. Go to a driving school and pay $2000-$4000 and take classes for 3-6 months. You'll pass the written and the driving on the first try.
Its mostly a trial of endurance, commitment and financial sacrifice
Are the drivers in Japan better than the US? Id say generally yes, but they still have bad drivers. I think temperament towards driving is more of a difference. Very little road rage or super aggressive driving
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 7:31 am
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:28 am to Mike da Tigah
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get them on the road to buy that gasoline and keep the economic machine rolling along.
Eh. Less of that and more of we just want people to get out and live life. Our country is bigger. More people need to be able to drive themselves.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:29 am to Mike da Tigah
Not going to happen, it would economically crater the US economy because you need a license and a car to participate in society.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:33 am to kywildcatfanone
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Bring back drivers Ed,
What do you mean bring it back? This is now a requirement to get drivers permit.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:35 am to Mike da Tigah
Motorcycle training is available, just like regular drivers education.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:38 am to Mike da Tigah
More thorough training and testing, plus some kind of regular (even if something like 10years) rexamination would be beneficial, however UK driving and US driving are not really the same thing. That the US death rate would be higher I can believe, but based on what statistic? Per driver, where a likely higher percentage drive in the US? Per anum, where there are gonna be more people driving due to size and thus surely those numbers would be higher? Per person? Per mile/km? This is actually one where I'd feel fairly confident it would be safer than the UK some I'd suspect the average drive length to be much higher than UK
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:47 am to Mike da Tigah
Considering we have 45 year old Indians with four "STUDENT DRIVER PLEASE BE PATIENT" magnets on their $80k cars, and yet never actually go to a driving school, yes.
Posted on 8/9/26 at 7:51 am to Mike da Tigah
$2500 fee for first license.
100 hours of driver training, 50 hours on-road.
Proof of 1 year of insurance, paid in advance,minimum of 50/100/50
Automatic 1 year suspension if caught driving wo insurance
100 hours of driver training, 50 hours on-road.
Proof of 1 year of insurance, paid in advance,minimum of 50/100/50
Automatic 1 year suspension if caught driving wo insurance
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