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re: Designing Your Own House
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:30 pm to GAFF
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:30 pm to GAFF
As cool as drawing your own floor plan sounds, I can’t imagine you couldn’t find a plan you like that is already done. It’s more than a floor plan that needs to be drawn it’s the roof line that is usually the killer.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:39 pm to GAFF
OP: I'm an architect (commercial), and here's my $0.02:
You dont need an architect to design a house. You need a licensed engineer (PE) or architect to stamp your foundation. The builder can handle this.
Most home builders have a guy on the side that can draw up plans for your review/approval. I did this when I was in my 20s and wanted extra money. HOWEVER, you are depending on his interpretation of what you and your wife are arguing about and repeating it to his "guy". This is also the best way to keep costs in budget expectations during the design phase. He most likely has a few stock plans he uses and lets yo make changes to those, once or twice.
If an architect charges you $1 per SF to draw your house with unlimited changes, take the deal. He's an idiot for charging so little for his time.
I recently finished a house as a favor to a good family friend. He showed up with a sketch of "exactly what he wanted, no changes". A year later of back and forth with him, the wife, and budget, they finally agreed on a plan and cost. I wish he had gone to a contractor first and then gave my number to the builder. would have saved everyone so much time.
Lastly, the plan is easy. its everything else to figure out above the plan and the roof to ensure you get what you want without comprising the end result
You dont need an architect to design a house. You need a licensed engineer (PE) or architect to stamp your foundation. The builder can handle this.
Most home builders have a guy on the side that can draw up plans for your review/approval. I did this when I was in my 20s and wanted extra money. HOWEVER, you are depending on his interpretation of what you and your wife are arguing about and repeating it to his "guy". This is also the best way to keep costs in budget expectations during the design phase. He most likely has a few stock plans he uses and lets yo make changes to those, once or twice.
If an architect charges you $1 per SF to draw your house with unlimited changes, take the deal. He's an idiot for charging so little for his time.
I recently finished a house as a favor to a good family friend. He showed up with a sketch of "exactly what he wanted, no changes". A year later of back and forth with him, the wife, and budget, they finally agreed on a plan and cost. I wish he had gone to a contractor first and then gave my number to the builder. would have saved everyone so much time.
Lastly, the plan is easy. its everything else to figure out above the plan and the roof to ensure you get what you want without comprising the end result
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:45 pm to GAFF
I've built 2 houses and designed them both. I've done some for friends also but I have a couple decades of construction experience and I designed and drew up most of those buildings too so I know what I'm doing.
If you have a good experience draftsman you can forego the architect and just have him do the plans (depends of course on the building codes for your area).
Any home builder worth his salt can give you an estimate off the floor plan because they'll go look at your building site too.
Spend a lot of time fiddling with your design before getting to that stage though, once you start building it, you're committed to it. If you haven't already go look at lots of new home construction, you learn a lot that way.
I'd suggest using something like floorplanner.com to help you draw something up to take to the draftsman. It's free, and its easy to use which will help you really get into the details of how your home will function after it's built.
If you have a good experience draftsman you can forego the architect and just have him do the plans (depends of course on the building codes for your area).
Any home builder worth his salt can give you an estimate off the floor plan because they'll go look at your building site too.
Spend a lot of time fiddling with your design before getting to that stage though, once you start building it, you're committed to it. If you haven't already go look at lots of new home construction, you learn a lot that way.
I'd suggest using something like floorplanner.com to help you draw something up to take to the draftsman. It's free, and its easy to use which will help you really get into the details of how your home will function after it's built.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:10 am to GAFF
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Basically I want to design my own home instead of buying a home plan. I already know the layout and dimensions I want. As well as door and window locations
I was going to say you’re in over your head but then I saw where you already know where you want your door and window locations. Sounds like you’ve thought of everything.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 5:54 am to Bullfrog
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Go to a highly recommended draftsman with your basic floor plan and let him flesh it out realistically. He will get you front, back and side elevations that don’t look retarded.
This. I did draw out mine, but I also had some schooling as a draftsman.
The guest house I am building, I did the plans, sawed my own lumber and building it myself. Was a PITA to get permits now.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:01 am to LSUtigerME
1$ a sq foot is high. I payed half of that and had zero problems with my plans and house being built. I don't know anyone who payed close a dollar a square foot.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:05 am to fishfighter
Crazy that it’s a PITA to build your own building on your own property yourself.
The permits are to protect “the next guy.” Such a load of shite. I lived in a subdivision house that was built “to code” in 2005 and lord what a mass produced piece of shite it was. Lord forbid somebody try to circumvent all those contractors and designers and permitting groups
The permits are to protect “the next guy.” Such a load of shite. I lived in a subdivision house that was built “to code” in 2005 and lord what a mass produced piece of shite it was. Lord forbid somebody try to circumvent all those contractors and designers and permitting groups
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:13 am to GAFF
I want to do a basic design of my house as well then take to an architect for real plans.
I am having trouble finding a tool that is worth a damn to drawn them though that doesn't cost thousands of dollars.
I am having trouble finding a tool that is worth a damn to drawn them though that doesn't cost thousands of dollars.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:17 am to GAFF
I found a plan I liked, had an architect modify it.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:17 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Crazy that it’s a PITA to build your own building on your own property yourself.
Sure the hell is. I even had to have a elevation shot done that cost $250. This guest house is about 1000' from my house that is NOT in a flood zone. Even after showing the arse clowns maps, ect, they still made me get that.
Then having a treatment plant. Had to have a fellow that is lic by the STATE that installs plants to sign off on a map to were it was to be installed.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:25 am to Helo
Go online to Floorplans, Eplans or House Plans and More and find you like. Then you can download Sketchup Free to get a basic layout. Take that to a good draftsman and he'll get you going for about .50-.75$ a sq ft. If you don't know a draftsman but know a GC talk to him and find out who they use for houseplans, they'll reccomend someone thats easy to work with. In Louisiana you will need a stamp in a few instances. If the structure is off the ground, exterior walls higher than 10', carport open on 3 sides and a few others. The cost to get the PE to stamp drawings is not included in the price of the plans. Most of the time the draftsman will work with the PE to get the dwgs stamped.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 6:54 am to CHEDBALLZ
quote:Can you recommend a draftsman in EBR or Ascension Parish that charge this?
Take that to a good draftsman and he'll get you going for about .50-.75$ a sq ft.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:51 am to GAFF
With today's commercially available architecture software, why hire an architect for a house? I mean for an office building, I Can see, but a house?
We designed our house and hired a builder to build what essentially was a floor plan drawn on a sheet of plywood years ago.
Of course we've remodeled 30 times in 10 years, so maybe I'm wrong LOL
We designed our house and hired a builder to build what essentially was a floor plan drawn on a sheet of plywood years ago.
Of course we've remodeled 30 times in 10 years, so maybe I'm wrong LOL
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:52 am to whit
All the Draftsman I know are in the Houma area.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:53 am to lsuroadie
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you can get a draftsman to draw it...regardless, you’ll have to get an architect to stamp your foundation
so much misinformation in a one sentence post
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:57 am to GAFF
Home Designs
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 7:59 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:38 am to MotorBoater
So you’re about to invest hundreds of thousands of dollars into building a home. The place that you and your family will live for years and years. And step one is to save a few thousand dollars, maybe, to design it yourself. Something you have zero expertise in and have never done before.
Do you know the zoning requirements? Required building setbacks? Maximum height allowed? Maximum lot coverage allowed? Percentage of permeable area required? Flood zone? Base flood elevation in that zone? Do you need an extra foot for “free boarding” in that zone? If you’re not in a flood zone, how high are you required to be from the centerline of the street or the curb? What kind of foundation will you have? Concrete slab, strap pile, CMU piers, chain wall? Do you plan to raise the joists above the flood elevation or use treated lumber? What are the required clearances for the crawlspace and access? Percentage of ventilation required? How far do you have to be from the adjacent property line to not have fire treated overhangs?
That, and more, just to establish your footprint and floor elevation. Step one. It’s not that complicated if you know the drill. But do you know the drill? There are similar lists for every phase of the design.
Building a home is stressful enough, plans aside. It’s probably better to spend your time making money in your profession and using that money to pay someone who is an expert in their profession. It’s also better to have someone to hold accountable other than yourself. And to know you have a home that is code compliant, buildable, safe, water-tight, functional and holds it’s value for resale. Resale value is a big one. Though there’s no guarantee with an architect, you are less likely to have the ugliest, least functional house in the neighborhood.
Blah, blah, blah, etc. I’m off to pull my own tooth and spray paint my car. Good luck.
Do you know the zoning requirements? Required building setbacks? Maximum height allowed? Maximum lot coverage allowed? Percentage of permeable area required? Flood zone? Base flood elevation in that zone? Do you need an extra foot for “free boarding” in that zone? If you’re not in a flood zone, how high are you required to be from the centerline of the street or the curb? What kind of foundation will you have? Concrete slab, strap pile, CMU piers, chain wall? Do you plan to raise the joists above the flood elevation or use treated lumber? What are the required clearances for the crawlspace and access? Percentage of ventilation required? How far do you have to be from the adjacent property line to not have fire treated overhangs?
That, and more, just to establish your footprint and floor elevation. Step one. It’s not that complicated if you know the drill. But do you know the drill? There are similar lists for every phase of the design.
Building a home is stressful enough, plans aside. It’s probably better to spend your time making money in your profession and using that money to pay someone who is an expert in their profession. It’s also better to have someone to hold accountable other than yourself. And to know you have a home that is code compliant, buildable, safe, water-tight, functional and holds it’s value for resale. Resale value is a big one. Though there’s no guarantee with an architect, you are less likely to have the ugliest, least functional house in the neighborhood.
Blah, blah, blah, etc. I’m off to pull my own tooth and spray paint my car. Good luck.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 8:46 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 8:55 am to GAFF
My dad did this.
Bought software that allowed him to draft the plan, then had an architect review it.
Since it will be the initial build of your plan, you have to be super careful with the details. For example, if you have a staircase, take into account the space between the floors, because that pushes the length of the stairs out.
Bought software that allowed him to draft the plan, then had an architect review it.
Since it will be the initial build of your plan, you have to be super careful with the details. For example, if you have a staircase, take into account the space between the floors, because that pushes the length of the stairs out.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:10 am to GAFF
Draw out your floor plan. Then sit down with a draftsman. If you’re using a builder, they’ll know one. Draftsman will draw your sketch or whatever to code so you can push it through plan review for permitting. What size is your house?
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