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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by carguymatt
Member since Aug 1998
Member since Jun 2015
1076 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:22 pm to
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Finally saw this exchange. You could tell she was flustered and angry the whole time. Nelson wrecked her and she’s trying to promote her obvious bias.


Yup. I just watched it twice. The girl is extremely unprofessional and disrespectful.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:32 pm to
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The only place I even see "neck compression" is in the "case title."

Not sure case title is where the final diagnosis is. I believe that's in the section titled "final diagnoses."

Eta
The word "homicide" also doesn't appear in the official report. I assume you are going by the family's autopsy that was paid for after the initial one.



I saw another poster addressed this. but its a homicide as told by 3/3 of the examiners. all 3 examiners, biased or unbiased, all agreed. medical documentation can be weird, and it doesn't always use specific terms you may expect. some folks refuse to understand that but good for you asking questions not just sticking your head in the sand like that parnassis tool.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:44 pm to
I just caught up with her examination holy crap.

She obviously is trying to make it look as bad as possible for Chauvin so I dunno how any of her testimony can be believed.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
8500 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:17 pm to
Of course her answers were biased... I bet she shows up in street clothes tomorrow.
Posted by dragonNRG45
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2019
725 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:23 pm to
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Of course her answers were biased... I bet she shows up in street clothes tomorrow.

I hope she does and Nelson asks her why
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23920 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:30 pm to
Dude, George Floyd is not going to frick you. You sound like an obsessive ex-girlfriend focused on 1 word
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23920 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:33 pm to
She also made the point to say she was worried about all the black men standing around with cops still there. I wonder how her fire chief feels about her spewing anti-cop rhetoric on national tv.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40229 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:36 pm to
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Finally saw this exchange


Got a link? Saw some but would like to see it all.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:40 pm to
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but its a homicide as told by 3/3 of the examiners.


If he made better life choices he would still be alive today and would be continuing to be a drain on the actual American tax payer. I wish it never happened but his actions caused all of this shite.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:41 pm to
She was so smiling and giddy answering questions for prosecution, then her demeanor and attitude changed completely. That’s not trying to persuade the jury?
Posted by carguymatt
Member since Aug 1998
Member since Jun 2015
1076 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:43 pm to
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I just caught up with her examination holy crap.

She obviously is trying to make it look as bad as possible for Chauvin so I dunno how any of her testimony can be believed.


This is a pretty good common sense thinking jury I think. Think about this, the attorneys for both sides interviewed somewhere around 120 people to choose 15. It was all televised. So approximately 1 out of 8 people called to jury duty on this case didn't show some sort of bias or potential to have bias.

Most likely they'll see her as slanting things so badly against Chauvin and the officers and disregard what she's saying all together. I think she's actually hurting the states case and later testimony by experts is going to kill the states case. The MMA wrestler guy even testified today he's seen people be choked unconscious and get back up to fight. He was pretty obviously bias too.

The only reason there's a trial at all is so the American, and really the world public can see exactly what happen if they want to look. The problem is, many people see the one viral video and that's all they need to see or want to see to convince themselves and agree with their social circles that Chauvin is guilty. The mainstream media is who egged on the public initially without knowing the entire story. Now it will be interesting to see if they can admit they were wrong in how they promoted the video. They don't have to admit they were wrong, they just need start reporting the actual truth that's coming out of the trial in a neutral way. The media wants a big juicy story to sell advertising. I'm not sure that they care about the truth or utilize much common sense. Much of this younger generation we have doesn't care about that either. That's a big part of the media now.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2650 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:43 pm to
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I saw another poster addressed this. but its a homicide as told by 3/3 of the examiners. all 3 examiners, biased or unbiased, all agreed. medical documentation can be weird, and it doesn't always use specific terms you may expect. some folks refuse to understand that but good for you asking questions not just sticking your head in the sand like that parnassis tool.
You’re right. Doctors typically make a habit of not saying what they mean. So instead of saying “asphyxiation” they went with all of the bullshite you typed.

Also, ever cite that source or nah?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:50 pm to
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The media ...I'm not sure that they care about the truth

One thing that has been made abundantly clear to me over the past 12 months is that the media has its narrative it wants to push, facts be damned.
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 8:50 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24837 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:56 pm to
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The media wants a big juicy story to sell advertising.

And for that reason do not and likely never care about the truth. Now because of social media and the numerous “competitors” they now have, they have further sensationalized their news to keep up.
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4893 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 9:15 pm to
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I think she's actually hurting the states case and later testimony by experts is going to kill the states case.

If she really said that she was 'worried about all the black men standing around with cops still there', her testimony is going to be infinitely less persuasive than the 5 and 6 MMA fighter.

...Or was that his height?
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 9:22 pm to
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One thing that has been made abundantly clear to me over the past 12 months is that the media has its narrative it wants to push, facts be damned.


That’s been clear to me since Bush Jr. was in office, when I actually started to pay attention to the so called media.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 9:51 pm to
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Fentanyl for anesthesia is an adjunct and is used in the setting of poly-substance as it is supplemental to benzos and propofol/gas.


What about fentanyl for recreation, perhaps mixed with methamphetamine?

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would also like to see the background data on the fatality association claim. what was the context?is it like an elderly alcoholic uses fentanyl and dies falling off a ladder


Yea I’m sure it’s exactly like that.

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Floyd also did not act like a fentanyl overdose. Those folks fall asleep and quit breathing


Well he definitely quit breathing
Posted by bgtiger
SOLA
Member since Dec 2004
12108 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 9:57 pm to
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Floyd also did not act like a fentanyl overdose. Those folks fall asleep and quit breathing


Well, I’ll go with the other twenty minutes of film that show that he was fricked up. That big man was claiming he couldn’t breath and wanted his mommy with nobody touching him.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11958 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 9:59 pm to
How long does this trial realistically last?
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
3777 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:01 pm to
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She also made the point to say she was worried about all the black men standing around with cops still there. I wonder how her fire chief feels about her spewing anti-cop rhetoric on national tv.

That was really incredible. I’m surprised the defense attorney didn’t say, “Wait, what?”
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