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re: Deep South winter storm and arctic outbreak - Jan. 20-23 timeframe

Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14428 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:45 pm to
Explain to me like I'm an Atlanta Public Schools grad the difference between the Kuchera and 10:1 snowfall models.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87297 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:50 pm to
Kuchera ratio is a more accurate method of determining snowfall amounts. I think it can take into account temperature and mixing due to warm noses. Snowfall is generally estimated to be at a 10:1 ratio of snow to liquid equivalent, whereas more marginal temps can lead to ratios of 8:1 or colder temps up to 20:1. The kuchera ratio should take this into account.


- From Reddit

I know the 10:1 ratio was discussed a lot with our snow last week, essentially that NWS was estimating it closer to 7:1. It sounds like it's pretty common for them to question 10:1 ratios in our area just on account of how often/common it is for it to be a razor thin margin between all liquid, mixed and frozen.
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
322 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 2:58 pm to
My basic understanding:

10:1 is a rain model that just assumes a 10x rain multiplier for snow volume.

Kuchera is actually a snow model.

But supposedly the net and gross snow depth models are historically better predictors, especially with mixed sleet and ice.

And plenty of runs the last week it'll show 0" snowfall but like 6" accumulation and vice versa. They're not internally consistent.
Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
627 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:02 pm to
screw all that ill be blasting ducks
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31550 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:17 pm to
Are we officially to the point where we bring up your boy in Josh whatever his name is from the station in BR last time we had snow arguing with people on Facebook about snow being fake and any reports incorrect while people are literally posting pictures of themselves sitting in snow around town?
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by DVinBR
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Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50640 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:19 pm to
12.5"?? I'd need 3 tries to measure that.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Explain to me like I'm an Atlanta Public Schools grad

Posted by purple18
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
1772 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

was reading about 1895 the other day. They claim 22" in Houston i don't know how that's possible other than the mythical Gulf of Mexico effect snow


Reading about the atmospheric set up for that event, looks very similar to this one. Artic blast coming in with a low pressure strengthening in the Gulf of America moving inland…not saying we getting 24” though. I can’t even imagine what that would be like down here
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102618 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:30 pm to
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screw all that ill be blasting ducks


Where are ducks? I ain’t had ducks all year
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
8673 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:32 pm to
quote:


Reading about the atmospheric set up for that event, looks very similar to this one. Artic blast coming in with a low pressure strengthening in the Gulf of America moving inland…not saying we getting 24” though. I can’t even imagine what that would be like down here


Also Global Warming wasn't a thing in 1895 so we have nothing to worry about.
Posted by LPLGTiger
Member since May 2013
2710 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:37 pm to
One day you wake up and it starts snowing. No weatherman or nothing. Wild.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50640 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:40 pm to
They knew it was coming when the church elders reported aching joints.
Posted by FrankandBeans
Member since Sep 2022
661 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:42 pm to
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I enjoy KLFY if only to listen to the guy occasionally shite on that stupid GRAF model that Perillo convinced KATC to buy


WAFB uses it too and they’re contractually required to do so.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24589 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:48 pm to
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Artic blast coming in with a low pressure strengthening in the Gulf of America moving inland
That's the ideal setup for 90% of 'wintry' weather down here
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24218 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:53 pm to
Losing electricity and 17 degrees isn’t something that I’m looking forward too. I am breaking out the he generator. I have a 7250 with 8000 max. If I only ran my central heater at night would my generator run it? It’s a 5 ton system.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49658 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Losing electricity and 17 degrees isn’t something that I’m looking forward too. I am breaking out the he generator. I have a 7250 with 8000 max. If I only ran my central heater at night would my generator run it? It’s a 5 ton system.


Gas furnace? or is the whole system electric?
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
5326 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:58 pm to
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The state record is 24" in Rayne in 1895 so its possible....lol


I may be wrong but I thought the state record was in Oberlin.
Posted by jaTigerfan
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
2180 posts
Posted on 1/16/25 at 3:58 pm to
I’m pretty sure it was closed due to the snow/ice in Jan 2018. I was commuting from Prairieville to Nola at the time and remember missing a couple days of work.
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