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re: Death by cop - Ryan Whitaker, PHX PD
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:39 am to davyjones
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:39 am to davyjones
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Well except you're not necessarily supposed to shoot someone in the back like a coward when they're doing exactly what you're telling them to do, only because you have the extra freedom to do so.
Not exactly the way it happened. The cops were confronted with a handgun after announcing themselves.
They got to go home safe and sound.
Stick to your narrative & have a nice day.
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:43 am to The Third Leg
Those are just the ones killed. How many more are shot? Since that was your original criteria.
More cops are killed in the line of duty than unarmed people. And even if you include all people killed by cops, it’s still a lower death rate than cops who are killed. Meaning 48 out of 700k is still a higher rate than the reverse: cops killing others.
I’m not defending these cops with this argument. I’m merely pointing out that your original statement was false. And you adding context actually proves it.
More cops are killed in the line of duty than unarmed people. And even if you include all people killed by cops, it’s still a lower death rate than cops who are killed. Meaning 48 out of 700k is still a higher rate than the reverse: cops killing others.
I’m not defending these cops with this argument. I’m merely pointing out that your original statement was false. And you adding context actually proves it.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:45 am to munchman
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They got to go home safe and sound.
Whole lotta armchair QBs in this thread who think they could do it better, while sitting safe and sound in their home.
Better training, better hires, better pay blah blah blah.
How bout civilians quit doing stupid shite to put themselves at risk?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:46 am to munchman
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This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:48 am to tigerinthebueche
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How bout civilians quit doing stupid shite to put themselves at risk?
How about nobody putting a blinding light in another person's eye just as the door is opened?
Downvote all you want, but than was an unnecessary move that blinded the resident and unnecessarily escalated the situation.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 7:53 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:00 am to ell_13
I said there were very few, and the statistics prove this. I don’t know how many were shot, as they don’t publish that aggregate data, but I doubt it is a large multiplier over deaths by shooting.
There are 700k cops. Each of those cops has dozens of interactions daily. Millions upon millions of them happen annually, and in all of those situations, it adds up to 44 police officers being shot and killed. Not exactly much more than a few, statistically speaking.
There are 700k cops. Each of those cops has dozens of interactions daily. Millions upon millions of them happen annually, and in all of those situations, it adds up to 44 police officers being shot and killed. Not exactly much more than a few, statistically speaking.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:04 am to noonan
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So this happened back in May and this is the first I've heard about it.
frick the media and their obvious agenda.
Of using video for ratings? I get what you are saying and it won’t get the same play but video coming out goes a real long way. Floyd wouldn’t have been an immediate explosion if not for the cell video.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 8:09 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:06 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:like playing music too loud and having terrible neighbors?
How bout civilians quit doing stupid shite to put themselves at risk
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:07 am to September 1948
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Pretty sad that they made the gf sit there watching and listening to her bf die.
While telling her to relax.
Like no mother fricker you are the one killing people. Y’all should chill the frick out, not me.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:10 am to LSUJML
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If there is no evidence of domestic violence should the caller be held responsible?
Knowingly making a fake 911 call is a crime.
I don't know if anything he did was a felony in Arizona (in most states if you commit a felony that leads to a death you're guilty of murder). But the neighbor should definitely be sued into oblivion.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:20 am to munchman
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They got to go home safe and sound.
I’m so sick of this fricking narrative of being a cop being so dangerous.
The guy who cuts your yard is more likely to be killed at work than a cop but everyone wants to act like they’re walking into the Battle of the Somme every day.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:20 am to The Egg
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like playing music too loud and having terrible neighbors?
No dipshit. Like opening the door with gun in hand when there are cops on the other side. That’s a sure fire way to “escalate” when he and the cops need to “de-escalate”.
I’m not pardoning the cops based on the video. But I am blaming Whitaker for his role in his death based on the video.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:21 am to The Egg
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How bout civilians quit doing stupid shite to put themselves at risk
like playing music too loud and having terrible neighbors?
Does anyone want to talk about how the 911 maneuvered through those questions to make it a physical disturbance call?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:22 am to Ricardo
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If this was a black guy, most of y’all would be saying, “Good shoot.”
Thanks white knight
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:23 am to RTRinTampa
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There is not enough money in the world to train cops to deal with shitty citizens in this country.
The cops are the shitty citizens.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:26 am to idlewatcher
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This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:33 am to NoSaint
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Of using video for ratings?
No, for ignoring this story in the national news. There's only one reason George Floyd was national news and Ryan Whitaker wasn't.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:36 am to baldona
First off I’m a girl.
I am not full of shite. It would not phase me if my neighbor, family, or friends had a gun in their hand when they answered the door.. Not my fault you’re scared of guns.
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ure as hell would be pissed if I knocked on my neighbors door and he answered with a gun.
I am not full of shite. It would not phase me if my neighbor, family, or friends had a gun in their hand when they answered the door.. Not my fault you’re scared of guns.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:40 am to SEClint
Why did they run your friends name anyway if he was just assisting in rescuing someone?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:42 am to Brazos
They get license of everyone at the scene. Even if you call the cops for help from your home.
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