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re: Deadheading pilot tried to crash a commercial aircraft last night
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:58 pm to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:58 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Which is it,moron?
Maybe you should learn more?
FAA Lowers Standards for Air Traffic Controllers because Diversity
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The FAA, without a vote, just scrapped the old hiring system and replaced it with a diversity-friendly version. Most people have no idea this happened.
The FAA now requires many of its applicants to fill out what they call a biographical questionnaire before any other screening. Those who answer the questions in a way that diversity monitors don’t like cannot be considered for hiring, not matter how much experience they have or how well they may do on the other portions of the testing.
The biographical questionnaire is all important. So, what is in this biographical questionnaire? Well, we can answer that question because we’ve got a copy of it and we also got information about how it is scored. And it’s shocking!
For example, one question asked test-takers to name their worst grade in high school. The preferred answer for that is science. In other words, if you can’t do science, the FAA is especially eager to hire you as an air traffic controller. You get 10 points for being bad at science, according to the scoring sheet.
Another question asked about work history. According to the FAA, the best answer to that question is you haven’t worked at all in the past three years. You get 10 points for not working.
Apparently, unemployed people make the best air traffic controllers. This is demented, by the way, but it’s real. So do applicants who played a lot of sports in high school. They’re rewarded too.
By contrast, applicants who say they know a great deal about air traffic control get only five points. Trained pilots get two points.
Once again, applicants who haven’t worked at all, who have been unemployed for the past three years, get 10 points.
FAA DEIA
FAA quietly widened the EKG parameters for America’s pilots
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The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in the October 2022 version of its Guide for Aviation Medical Examiners increased the EKG parameters required for pilots to be able to fly, a report said.
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Kirsch said the PA range (a measure of heart function) for pilots used to be in the range of .12 to .2. “It is now .12 to .3 and potentially even higher. This is a very wide range; it accommodates people who have cardiac injury.”
The FAA’s move amounts to what Kirsch said is “a tacit admission from the U.S. government that the Covid vaccine has damaged the hearts of our pilots. Not just a few pilots. A lot of pilots and a lot of damage.”
The FAA was well aware that if it continued with the original EKG range, “too many pilots would have to be grounded,” Kirsch noted. “That would be extremely problematic; commercial aviation in the U.S. would be severely disrupted.”
In other words, Kirsch continued, “the Covid vaccine has seriously injured a lot of pilots and the FAA knows it and said nothing because that would tip off the country that the vaccines are unsafe. And you aren’t allowed to do that.”
Airlines look to attract more diverse pilots amid shortage
I can keep linking you more sources, but i think you understand the point now.
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 1:03 pm to bikerack
He claims to be a Biden supporter, he will get community service
Posted on 10/24/23 at 1:37 pm to stout
Apparently he was on psycho mushrooms.
Pilot took mushrooms.
Pilot took mushrooms.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 2:24 pm to BugAC
Friend,
Rather than quote a conspiracist loon from a crazed website as an authoritative source, I would suggest reading The Only EKG Book You'll Ever Need by Malcolm Thaler (a much better instructional book than Rapid Interpretation of EKG's (sic) by Dale Dubin who was later imprisoned for child pornography and cocaine possession, crimes that often go hand-in-hand). In either book, you will learn that there is no such thing in ECG interpretation as a PA range. There is a such thing as a PR interval (PA is an archaic and even in olden days seldom used term for PR), but it was never, ever spoken of as a "range."
The PR interval simply measures how long it takes between the atrium depolarizing and the moment the ventricles begin to depolarize. The normal PR interval is 0.12 seconds to 0.20 seconds. When the PR interval exceeds 0.20 seconds, there is what is called first degree AV block, which is generally considered a benign heart condition and has no association with ischemia or loss of cardiac function, as your source claims. Framingham showed there was a double lifetime risk of afib, however, which also, on its own, is not an ischemic condition.
PR interval prolongation is not associated with ischemic conditions. It can become depressed in pericarditis, but that is rare. It can become shortened in rare syndromes like Lown-Ganong-Levine. But in general, a prolonged PR interval between .21 and .30 seconds, without other associated ECG changes, would be considered nothing more than first degree AV block. I would assume that cardiologists, using evidence based medicine, decided that simple first degree AV block did not result in any syncopal episodes, thus, it would be safe for pilots to fly with first degree AV block.
You should seriously consider never returning to that website as the one article you quote is sub-amateur and filled with falsities.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
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PA range (a measure of heart function) for pilots used to be in the range of .12 to .2. “It is now .12 to .3 and potentially even higher. This is a very wide range; it accommodates people who have cardiac injury
Rather than quote a conspiracist loon from a crazed website as an authoritative source, I would suggest reading The Only EKG Book You'll Ever Need by Malcolm Thaler (a much better instructional book than Rapid Interpretation of EKG's (sic) by Dale Dubin who was later imprisoned for child pornography and cocaine possession, crimes that often go hand-in-hand). In either book, you will learn that there is no such thing in ECG interpretation as a PA range. There is a such thing as a PR interval (PA is an archaic and even in olden days seldom used term for PR), but it was never, ever spoken of as a "range."
The PR interval simply measures how long it takes between the atrium depolarizing and the moment the ventricles begin to depolarize. The normal PR interval is 0.12 seconds to 0.20 seconds. When the PR interval exceeds 0.20 seconds, there is what is called first degree AV block, which is generally considered a benign heart condition and has no association with ischemia or loss of cardiac function, as your source claims. Framingham showed there was a double lifetime risk of afib, however, which also, on its own, is not an ischemic condition.
PR interval prolongation is not associated with ischemic conditions. It can become depressed in pericarditis, but that is rare. It can become shortened in rare syndromes like Lown-Ganong-Levine. But in general, a prolonged PR interval between .21 and .30 seconds, without other associated ECG changes, would be considered nothing more than first degree AV block. I would assume that cardiologists, using evidence based medicine, decided that simple first degree AV block did not result in any syncopal episodes, thus, it would be safe for pilots to fly with first degree AV block.
You should seriously consider never returning to that website as the one article you quote is sub-amateur and filled with falsities.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 10/24/23 at 2:43 pm to jcaz
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Your logic is retarded.
Nope. There is enough distraction between the two pilots already in the aircraft. Go read about DL5191 which crashed on takeoff 5 miles from my house. Cockpits need to be sterile on take off and landing and anytime pilots are flying the plane.
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It’s mental health issue that the FAA needs to address. Pilots can’t seek therapy without fear of losing their medical certificates and their careers. So they don’t address it and it gets worse.
I don't know anything about this, but just like everything else, as has been mentioned in this thread already, it doesn't surprise me that they aren't checking the mental health of pilots regularly.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 2:48 pm to kywildcatfanone
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There is enough distraction between the two pilots already in the aircraft. Go read about DL5191 which crashed on takeoff 5 miles from my house. Cockpits need to be sterile on take off and landing and anytime pilots are flying the plane.
Go read about the Lion Air jumpseat pilot that saved MCAS from crashing the 737 Max in 2018. Of course he wasn't on the next flight when it eventually crashed.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 10/24/23 at 3:02 pm to kywildcatfanone
This is why I love the OT. Folks who have no idea what the hell they're talking about, acting like experts and wanting broad policy changes to something they didn't know existed yesterday.
Never change, OT.
Never change, OT.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 3:04 pm to slacker130
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Folks who have no idea what the hell they're talking about
no shortage of that here, what gets me is how strong their opinions are when they're stating their case
Posted on 10/24/23 at 3:06 pm to 777Tiger
quote:Why is an off duty pilot allowed in the cockpit at all?
a pilot riding on the jump seat does not mean he’s dead heading, or even with the same company
Posted on 10/24/23 at 3:10 pm to NOSHAU
Why wouldn't they be?
What's the negative?
What's the negative?
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 10/24/23 at 3:13 pm to kywildcatfanone
You have no idea wtf you are talking about.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 3:19 pm to jcaz
Per a local ABC affiliate, the deadheading pilot was high on psychedelic mushrooms.
New rule: only hot women should take psychedelics before flying.
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PORTLAND, Ore. (KATU) — The off-duty pilot facing 83 attempted murder charges after he allegedly tried to shut off the engines of a plane mid-flight on Sunday night admitted to taking psychedelic mushrooms, new arrest documents claim.
New rule: only hot women should take psychedelics before flying.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 4:21 pm to TulaneLSU
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In either book, you will learn that there is no such thing in ECG interpretation as a PA range.
Had my wife read your post and she ask if you were a polymath or in healthcare.
She agreed with the PA range nonsense.
She was also quick to point out that even talking about a PR interval average change may be simply a result of pilots being more fit. Prolonged P-R interval/first degree AV heart block is common in athletes and very common in endurance athletes. I have first degree heart block as do a lot of my cyclists friends. Our resting heart rates are in the high 30s low 40s and have to go through a song and dance everytime I give blood or see a new physician. It is concerning if you are a couch potato though.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:35 pm to bikerack
Strange how this used to be breaking news. Now it's about 4th story reported , or not even mentioned.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:26 pm to kywildcatfanone
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I don't know anything about this
You could have just stopped here.
What other high impact jobs don't "check mental health regulary"??
When was your surgeon's last mental health check? Your bus driver? Your cruise ship captain? The people who run the local nuclear power plant? The armed public servants around you every day (security/police)? Your elected politicians? The President? He's got the nuclear football!
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:41 pm to real turf fan
Dude takes them for the first time ever after he claimed to have not slept in over 40 hours. What a horrible set/setting for a first time trip.
Unfortunately it just gives a bad name to psychedelics and only adds to the perpetuity of governmental oversight on one of the most naturally enlightening medicinal compounds available.
Unfortunately it just gives a bad name to psychedelics and only adds to the perpetuity of governmental oversight on one of the most naturally enlightening medicinal compounds available.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:05 am to 777Tiger
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Folks who have no idea what the hell they're talking about
no shortage of that here, what gets me is how strong their opinions are when they're stating their case
When watching someone pontificate on a topic they seemingly know nothing about, I have a friend who rhetorically asks, "Why do those that know the least, know it the loudest?"
Never fails to make me laugh.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 2:59 am to slackster
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What does attempted pilot suicide of a white male pilot that’s 44 years old have to do with the woke movement?
Is this your first time on this board? Or even your first time on the internet….
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