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re: Customers hit with automatic 20% gratuities as restaurants combat tipping confusion
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:21 pm to weagle1999
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:21 pm to weagle1999
It is not gratuity if you force someone to pay it. It does show how ridiculous the U.S. restaurant model is compared to the rest of the world that they have to implement changes when expecting visitors from out of the country.
Just raise prices and pay the servers an appropriate wage instead of this comically ridiculous charade.
Just raise prices and pay the servers an appropriate wage instead of this comically ridiculous charade.
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Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:28 pm to LemmyLives
If you want to protect the servers just pay them like kitchen staff.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:30 pm to go ta hell ole miss
My formative working years were in the restaurant industry....in the kitchen. I eventually got out of school and got a real job, but I digress.
Our tipping culture is nonsense. The kitchen staff is doing the vast majority of work in restaurants. These servers acting like they're undervalued, undertipped and underpaid are entitled brats.
I don't even consider tipping in a non-sit down hour long meal situation. People who tip coffee baristas, carryout, etc...dumb. Stop it already. It's your money, but it sure is dumb to throw it away like that for absolutely no reason.
Our tipping culture is nonsense. The kitchen staff is doing the vast majority of work in restaurants. These servers acting like they're undervalued, undertipped and underpaid are entitled brats.
I don't even consider tipping in a non-sit down hour long meal situation. People who tip coffee baristas, carryout, etc...dumb. Stop it already. It's your money, but it sure is dumb to throw it away like that for absolutely no reason.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:44 pm to weagle1999
If you gonna do automatic gratuity just add to price and let’s stop this nonsense
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:47 pm to weagle1999
Wonder if its OK for Nola to do this during the Bayou Classic.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:54 pm to 777Tiger
quote:you know most other countries don't tip.....in in the bill there and they pay their servers a full wage.
guests from countries without a strong tipping culture may unknowingly undercompensate workers.
complete bullshite,
Agree or not, here , servers are paid shot and rely on tips. So foreigners coming here and not paying that tip is a hazard for servers.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 5:57 pm to weagle1999
Didn't Obama start the automatic gratuity would be fully taxed?
(I mean , it was supposed to be fully taxed, but no waiters ever claimed the full amount of tips received. But now, these automatic gratuity would have taxes deducted right away)
(I mean , it was supposed to be fully taxed, but no waiters ever claimed the full amount of tips received. But now, these automatic gratuity would have taxes deducted right away)
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:17 pm to StansberryRules
quote:
Mandatory gratuity.
The perfect description of the idiocy of "tipping culture"
It might be the biggest scam in American history. A system created by those who own the restaurants have conned those they serve into subsidizing their workers.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:20 pm to weagle1999
Here come cash payments less the 20%
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:25 pm to weagle1999
quote:The restaurants should have closed for "remodeling" or "vacation."
guests from countries without a strong tipping culture may unknowingly undercompensate workers
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:31 pm to weagle1999
quote:
restaurants in several FIFA World Cup host cities welcome an influx of international visitors this weekend, some operators are adding automatic gratuities to customers' checks, citing concerns that guests from countries without a strong tipping culture may unknowingly undercompensate workers.
I predict issues
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:41 pm to teke184
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I don’t believe in tipping people making a fricking coffee.
Agreed, or a frickin subway sandwich!
Posted on 6/13/26 at 6:44 pm to weagle1999
Why not just increase your prices by 20% then and give that extra 20% to your workers at the end of a shift?
Oh yeah, you don’t want diners to know the real price of their food.
Oh yeah, you don’t want diners to know the real price of their food.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:30 pm to MMauler
quote:
Why not just increase your prices by 20% then and give that extra 20% to your workers at the end of a shift?
Oh yeah, you don’t want diners to know the real price of their food.
Exactly. And they don't want diners to know how badly they are being screwed over for the quality of food they are going to receive. Plus how do we know the managers and owners aren't skimming off the top since it's automatic? We know the restaurant industry is notorious for that.
As far as I'm concerned, mandatory tipping should be illegal unless the following conditions are met:
- Group of 8 or more people.
- Sign at the entrance indicating the automatic 20% gratuity.
- Front page of menu indicating the automatic 20% gratuity.
- Wait staff has to inform each group table as they come in of the automatic 20% gratuity and get approval from at least one member of the group table before the order can be taken.
As far as I'm concerned, if these conditions aren't met, the automatic gratuity is not legal.
I've only had twice where an automatic gratuity was added. I asked where on the menu it was located. I advised I did not agree or give permission for a 20% automatic gratuity.
But more than that, I told them the 20% automatic gratuity will be removed or I will leave the restaurant without paying a dime and thank you for a free meal. And if you even remotely try to stop me or touch me, I will call the police and press charges for assault and unlawful restraint.
Knock on wood, the two times they tried the 20% automatic gratuity, it was removed after I informed them what was going to happen.
But the restaurant industry is just going to keep pushing this further and further. I imagine with the next 2 - 3 years they'll try to make 22% the new standard. It's going to keep getting pushed until people start to genuinely fight back. I'm already doing that but it's going to take a significant societal rejection of this pathetic practice for the restaurant industry to get the hint.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:43 pm to weagle1999
When I was growing up it was 15% for good service. How they made everyone believe it went to 20% baffles me.
It’s 15% for good service and always will be for me. 20% if exceptional service.
It’s 15% for good service and always will be for me. 20% if exceptional service.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:44 pm to jasonbr1975
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Agreed, or a frickin subway sandwich!
I've become much more careful in what I tip for. I'm sorry but coffee, fast food or me picking up a pizza, food or a grocery order, I'm not tipping. Why should I? I'm doing most of the work! I'm not tipping someone to get me a donut or tipping someone scan up a water bottle for me at check out. I'm not tipping someone at Jersey Mike's for doing their job and creating a sandwich.
I tip of course for restaurants. I tip for bartenders. I tip for any type of hair cut or massage. I'll tip for housekeeping in a hotel. I'll tip for grocery delivery (except for Walmart delivery as they are paid a set hourly rate). If I used valet (which I don't), then yes that should be a tip as well.
But the vast majority of other things, I'm not tipping. And I refuse to change my standard. It's 15% for below average or average service. 18%-20% for slightly above average to good service. I'm not tipping over 20% unless the service was just truly above and beyond and exceptional. And I've had those experiences, but those are the exception, not the rule.
This post was edited on 6/13/26 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 6/13/26 at 7:49 pm to LemmyLives
quote:
Czechia Austria
Just curious of this is accurate. I'm headed there next month and everything I've read/heard is 10% is the norm, at least for Prague.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:07 pm to teke184
quote:If I'm standing up to order, I don't tip. Tips are for table service. Come take my order, fill my glass, and BRING ME MY FOOD.
I don’t mind tipping for table service.
I don’t believe in tipping people making a fricking coffee.
I saw a tip jar at a vape store the other day. It had a single dollar bill in it. Probably placed by the cashier.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:15 pm to UptownJoeBrown
quote:THIS! The only thing I would change is, 15% is for acceptable/expected service. Exceptional service/Unexpected is more.
It’s 15% for good service and always will be for me. 20% if exceptional service.
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