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re: Customers hit with automatic 20% gratuities as restaurants combat tipping confusion
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:45 pm to weagle1999
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:45 pm to weagle1999
Tipping is meant to be generosity for good service.
Technically not a tip, if mandatory. It's a hidden service fee. I try not to be a patron of establishments with such policies.
Technically not a tip, if mandatory. It's a hidden service fee. I try not to be a patron of establishments with such policies.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:49 pm to weagle1999
Do it. They likely won't tip. I got in a huge argument with some Scottish folks on a Scottish FB page. They flat think either: a. it's not their responsibility to pay the wage of the server and b. it's the server's fault for taking a low wage job.
They don't have to like it, but, when in Rome, do as the Romans do.
They don't have to like it, but, when in Rome, do as the Romans do.
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:48 pm to weagle1999
I wonder if these people know that mandatory gratuity doesn't qualify for the no tax on tips deduction.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 1:36 am to armytiger96
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I've read/heard is 10% is the norm, at least for Prague.
That's because so many Americans went there with their tipping culture and ruined those servers. I'm in Europe a lot and folks get aggravated at Americans tipping because it's caused them to now have to tip. They'll usually leave a little small something for servers if the service was great or it was a big table, etc. But the expectation? That's on us Americans
You don't have to leave anything, but we usually leave 5-10% depending on service. There's been quite a few times where we leave nothing because we didn't have any coins left and lots of times they can't/don't add it to the bill so you can tip on your cc.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 1:51 am to teke184
quote:hmmm - I think there is more skill involved in making an excellent espresso versus walking food from an expedite window to your table
I don’t believe in tipping people making a fricking coffee.
The subway sandwich ‘artist’ is doing more work on your food than a waiter is. If the sandwich artist is just doing his or her job by making the actual food you’re going to eat - isn’t the waiter just doing his or her job by walking your already cooked food (that was not prepared by the waiter) to your table?
I understand that front of the house makes less than back of the house but they are also doing less work.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:59 am to chryso
quote:Then there wouldn’t be any more servers because you would be asking all of them to take a significant pay cut.
If you want to protect the servers just pay them like kitchen staff.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:30 am to Spankum
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That is simply “price gouging”….no other way to look at it.
Only if the restaurant keeps the money instead of giving it to the servers
But 20% is too high
10-12% should be the standard for automatic gratuity to leave room for additional tips for exceptional service. 20% means good and shitty service will be rewarded the same. Not many will tip above 20% except maybe in high end restaurants
Posted on 6/14/26 at 8:41 am to weagle1999
Tip culture just lets restaurants pays workers less, forcing diners to subsidize servers pay. And somehow servers get blamed? GTFO!
All 3 of my daughters (no pics) worked as servers during college and made good money, and got valuable knowledge.
All 3 of my daughters (no pics) worked as servers during college and made good money, and got valuable knowledge.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 11:53 am to LemmyLives
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No, you dolt, it's protecting the servers. Participating countries that don't tip:
Japan
South Korea
China
Norway
Sweden
Netherlands
Switzerland
Germany
Belgium
France
Spain
Portugal
Croatia
Czechia
Austria
Lighter tipping standards:
Argentina
Uruguay
Colombia
Morocco
Tunisia
Egypt
Turkey
Jordan
That leaves three countries (US, Canada and Mexico) whose visitors probably understand the tipping expectations in North America. While I review social customs before visiting a country, a lot of people don't.
In Germany, there wasn't even a way to tip with a credit card, their POS systems didn't have a gratuity entry.
I left a cash tip at a restaurant in Germany and the waiter chased me out of the store to return it to me, thinking I had accidentally left money behind.
If I had a restaurant where I expected an influx of Europeans, I'd autograt 15% for the duration of the event. They just don't know. And the servers make $3 an hour. It seems common sense to me, I don't understand all the downvotes on this.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 12:21 pm to SloaneRanger
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That’s one great thing about traveling in Europe.
Yes, but they do charge you for water, ketchup, refills and to go to the bathroom.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 12:30 pm to icecreamsnowball
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Then there wouldn’t be any more servers because you would be asking all of them to take a significant pay cut.
Yeah, it should be really hard to find someone who can carry stuff to a table.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 1:34 pm to chryso
They really should change the laws in the US to mandate minimum wage for servers. The restaurants will have to increase their prices to compensate but then the tip will actually be for good service and not just subsidizing their wages. The whole system is bass ackwards. There's too much room for someone to get screwed.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 1:48 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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When I was growing up it was 15% for good service. How they made everyone believe it went to 20% baffles me.
Because your servers need it with everyday costs rising
Posted on 6/18/26 at 1:54 pm to deeprig9
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I left a cash tip at a restaurant in Germany and the waiter chased me out of the store to return it to me, thinking I had accidentally left money behind.
If I had a restaurant where I expected an influx of Europeans, I'd autograt 15% for the duration of the event. They just don't know. And the servers make $3 an hour. It seems common sense to me, I don't understand all the downvotes on this.
exactly. Pepole will say "the restaurant should pay a living wage! American tipping is out of control!" which is an entirely separte topic. That's an entire paradigm shift; you aren't going to completely overturn an entire nation's culture of tipping and corresponding wage scale on it's head in 24 hours. That's insantiy.
This is a TEMPORARY measure done for a very specific and logical purpose.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:14 pm to weagle1999
Yeah, Sno’s in Gonzales automatically put 10% service fee on takeout orders. If you’re not careful and tip 20% for them to bring it to your fricking car the. You’re giving 20% on top of the 10% in the total.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 2:22 pm to weagle1999
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As restaurants in several FIFA World Cup host cities welcome an influx of international visitors this weekend, some operators are adding automatic gratuities to customers' checks, citing concerns that guests from countries without a strong tipping culture may unknowingly undercompensate workers.
I mean, this would be illegal if they are not giving clear notice prior to ordering. As long as they are doing that, I don't really care, they can do what they want. I will be going to another establishment, but that is their choice.
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