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re: Customers hit with automatic 20% gratuities as restaurants combat tipping confusion

Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4376 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:45 pm to
Tipping is meant to be generosity for good service.

Technically not a tip, if mandatory. It's a hidden service fee. I try not to be a patron of establishments with such policies.
Posted by SparkyWilson
Member since May 2026
49 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 8:49 pm to
Do it. They likely won't tip. I got in a huge argument with some Scottish folks on a Scottish FB page. They flat think either: a. it's not their responsibility to pay the wage of the server and b. it's the server's fault for taking a low wage job.

They don't have to like it, but, when in Rome, do as the Romans do.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
6180 posts
Posted on 6/13/26 at 10:48 pm to
I wonder if these people know that mandatory gratuity doesn't qualify for the no tax on tips deduction.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
14091 posts
Posted on 6/14/26 at 1:36 am to
quote:

I've read/heard is 10% is the norm, at least for Prague.

That's because so many Americans went there with their tipping culture and ruined those servers. I'm in Europe a lot and folks get aggravated at Americans tipping because it's caused them to now have to tip. They'll usually leave a little small something for servers if the service was great or it was a big table, etc. But the expectation? That's on us Americans

You don't have to leave anything, but we usually leave 5-10% depending on service. There's been quite a few times where we leave nothing because we didn't have any coins left and lots of times they can't/don't add it to the bill so you can tip on your cc.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61013 posts
Posted on 6/14/26 at 1:51 am to
quote:

I don’t believe in tipping people making a fricking coffee.
hmmm - I think there is more skill involved in making an excellent espresso versus walking food from an expedite window to your table

The subway sandwich ‘artist’ is doing more work on your food than a waiter is. If the sandwich artist is just doing his or her job by making the actual food you’re going to eat - isn’t the waiter just doing his or her job by walking your already cooked food (that was not prepared by the waiter) to your table?

I understand that front of the house makes less than back of the house but they are also doing less work.
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
1436 posts
Posted on 6/14/26 at 5:59 am to
quote:

If you want to protect the servers just pay them like kitchen staff.
Then there wouldn’t be any more servers because you would be asking all of them to take a significant pay cut.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103128 posts
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:30 am to
quote:

That is simply “price gouging”….no other way to look at it.


Only if the restaurant keeps the money instead of giving it to the servers

But 20% is too high

10-12% should be the standard for automatic gratuity to leave room for additional tips for exceptional service. 20% means good and shitty service will be rewarded the same. Not many will tip above 20% except maybe in high end restaurants
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35279 posts
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:54 am to
Eating out less and less
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9334 posts
Posted on 6/14/26 at 8:41 am to
Tip culture just lets restaurants pays workers less, forcing diners to subsidize servers pay. And somehow servers get blamed? GTFO!

All 3 of my daughters (no pics) worked as servers during college and made good money, and got valuable knowledge.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75673 posts
Posted on 6/14/26 at 11:53 am to
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No, you dolt, it's protecting the servers. Participating countries that don't tip:
Japan
South Korea
China
Norway
Sweden
Netherlands
Switzerland
Germany
Belgium
France
Spain
Portugal
Croatia
Czechia
Austria

Lighter tipping standards:
Argentina
Uruguay
Colombia
Morocco
Tunisia
Egypt
Turkey
Jordan

That leaves three countries (US, Canada and Mexico) whose visitors probably understand the tipping expectations in North America. While I review social customs before visiting a country, a lot of people don't.


In Germany, there wasn't even a way to tip with a credit card, their POS systems didn't have a gratuity entry.

I left a cash tip at a restaurant in Germany and the waiter chased me out of the store to return it to me, thinking I had accidentally left money behind.

If I had a restaurant where I expected an influx of Europeans, I'd autograt 15% for the duration of the event. They just don't know. And the servers make $3 an hour. It seems common sense to me, I don't understand all the downvotes on this.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45102 posts
Posted on 6/14/26 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

That’s one great thing about traveling in Europe.


Yes, but they do charge you for water, ketchup, refills and to go to the bathroom.
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