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re: Couple gets lost in national park, man kills her then himself after they ran out of water

Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:41 am to
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28272 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:41 am to
he was probably listening to her in relation to the directions... Asian girls have the worst sense of direction, ever....

every time we are driving and somewhat lost, if i listen to my wife, we get even more lost... at this point, i do the exact opposite of what she says and we end up back on track...
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
9011 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:42 am to
Dude if I'm going any place that's "remote" then I'm taking a pistol. Why wouldn't you? It's a resource, a tool, an object that can be valuable.

But for these people, seems like they were totally unprepared and unskilled in any way.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31206 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:43 am to
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In the middle of the night listen. You'll be able to either hear water or traffic


Neither of those will work out for you in J-Tree. J-tree is more than a 1000 sq miles of desert. It is indeed easy to get lost there, every one of those yucca, rock formations and wadi starts to look exactly the same.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7754 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:47 am to
If only they had a huge glowing thing in the sky to help with navigation.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6227 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:52 am to
Its an 87 mile hike between desert hot spring an eagle mountain. If they would have picked a direction and traveled at night in one direction they could easily have gotten out.
Posted by cajunbuck
R-KANSAS
Member since Sep 2017
997 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:55 am to
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I take mine every time I go anywhere.



FIFY
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5521 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:55 am to

This type of thing has happened before.

There's actually a Matt Damon / Casey Affleck movie with this exact same plot. Two friends go on a casual day hike, get lost and things go from bad to worse as they are unprepared for the inherent dangers of the remote wilderness.

{Spoiler Aert below}


Much like this case, Damon kills Affleck in a mercy killing and then while plotting to kill himself, stumbles on a road with traffic.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:58 am to
87 miles? That is not an easily getting out situation. In July it's well over 100 every day in the desert. You run out of water and you're done, not walking 30 miles a night

Bringing a gun and getting lost is definitely something inexperienced hikers would do. I say that because you can easily avoid whatever wildlife you would encounter in the desert, but this guy was probably scared of snakes or something, which you should just avoid, not try to shoot. Inexperienced hikers who planned for a day hike which is why they had little water.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22344 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:00 am to
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Wrong. I'm as inexperienced as it gets. I took mine hiking in California.


Sounds like you are experienced.
Posted by Sticky37
Member since Jun 2016
595 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:00 am to
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If only they had a huge glowing thing in the sky to help with navigation.





It's so sad that the vast majority of people out there have no idea how to use the sun, Moon, and the pole star to find their direction. Hell, my "internal compass" is pretty damn accurate when it comes to finding my way.

Also, people should take the time and study the general layout of the land and relation of landmarks to each other before going on any hiking or camping trip.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19920 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:01 am to
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If they would have picked a direction and traveled at night in one direction they could easily have gotten out


I'm not sure that travelling in one direction in the desert at night is as easy as you think it is
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
21083 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:02 am to
Three pages and not one joke about him getting sick of her nagging him to ask for directions?

You’re slipping, OT.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 11:03 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64605 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:03 am to
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Dude if I'm going any place that's "remote" then I'm taking a pistol. Why wouldn't you?


Because it may be illegal?
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77716 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:04 am to
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Three pages and not one joke about him getting sick of her nagging him to ask for directions?


Well there is something at the top of this very Page
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:04 am to
is the movie good?

it received a 6.7 rating
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:04 am to
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Sounds like you are experienced.
Well I'm telling you that I am not experienced. You're going to argue with me?
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8364 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:04 am to
Exactly, It only say they were missing for 3 months. Not they survived 3 months.

It also says they were found in a canyon. Maybe they fell into the canyon, tried to survive for a week or so then decided to end it.

Either way, it’s a horrible situation.

Posted by Sticky37
Member since Jun 2016
595 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:05 am to
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I'm not sure that travelling in one direction in the desert at night is as easy as you think it is


See the moon? It rises in the east and sets in the West just like the sun. No Moon out? Can you find the little Dipper? The star at the end of it's handle always points north. Too cloudy to see moon or stars? Clouds generally move west to east.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77716 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:07 am to
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You're going to argue with me?


Maybe, are you carrying right now? Cause I can take an arse whipping, but not getting shot.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:07 am to
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Maybe, are you carrying right now?
No.
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