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re: Couple gets lost in national park, man kills her then himself after they ran out of water
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:15 am to Pettifogger
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:15 am to Pettifogger
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why?
A few reasons:
1) Only prepared/experienced hikers would think of taking a gun to some place so remote/desolate.
2) Experienced hikers would have had food and water.
3) Experienced hikers would have not gotten lost.
Someone having the foresight to bring a gun but not make sure they had food, water and an exit plan just raises some red flags.
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:20 am to GetCocky11
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had been missing for nearly three months after going for a hike in late July and failing to return to their bed-and-breakfast.
Three months? Bro, walking in a single direction for a couple of days and you run into somebody. Damn.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:21 am to Aubie Spr96
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Three months? Bro, walking in a single direction for a couple of days and you run into somebody. Damn.
In the middle of the night listen. You'll be able to either hear water or traffic
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:21 am to GetCocky11
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National parks have open carry, unless you are in the visitor center or some other building.
That's not true, National parks follow the same rules as the state that they are located w/in. This is in California, and thus falls under California law.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:22 am to Emiliooo
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Yeah, kind of strange to go hiking with a gun, especially if you're taking off from a B&B.
It's the wilderness, not Target.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:24 am to Aubie Spr96
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walking in a single direction for a couple of days
This is far more difficult than it is to write it. In the desert, once you admit are lost, you should conserve resources and travel at night. This makes it harder still.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:26 am to LCA131
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Orbeso and Nguyen had once dated
Red flag.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:26 am to Aubie Spr96
It doesn't seem like they were lost and died after three months.
The bodies were just found after three months.
The bodies were just found after three months.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:28 am to GetCocky11
So they brought little food or water into the desert but took a gun? But no compass or map in order to know which direction to walk back toward? No knife to cut into a cactus for water?
Idiots. Or it was intentional
Idiots. Or it was intentional
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:28 am to GetCocky11
I went to Joshua Tree back in 2011 and spent a week hiking with friends. It would be extremely easy to get lost off trail if you didn’t know how to use a map and a compass to plot bearing points.
Sad story.
Sad story.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:32 am to GetCocky11
And that's why you don't go hiking.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:35 am to notsince98
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Someone having the foresight to bring a gun but not make sure they had food, water and an exit plan just raises some red flags.
I can see an inexperienced person bringing a gun because they are worried about wildlife and not bringing adequate food/water because they didn't plan for getting lost. Bringing a gun isn't something that screams experience to me.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:36 am to deltaland
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So they brought little food or water into the desert but took a gun? But no compass or map in order to know which direction to walk back toward? No knife to cut into a cactus for water?
Idiots. Or it was intentional
Yep, makes you wonder.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:37 am to notsince98
quote:Wrong. I'm as inexperienced as it gets. I took mine hiking in California.
1) Only prepared/experienced hikers would think of taking a gun to some place so remote/desolate.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:38 am to ChewyDante
quote:bingo
I can see an inexperienced person bringing a gun because they are worried about wildlife and not bringing adequate food/water because they didn't plan for getting lost.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:38 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Them cactus are full of water.........
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:38 am to Emiliooo
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Yeah, kind of strange to go hiking with a gun, especially if you're taking off from a B&B.
I personally don't hike with a gun, but I've never thought twice seeing someone open carry on a trail.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:39 am to Drop4Loss
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Them cactus are full of water.........
It's like drinking seawater if you don't know how to distill it.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:41 am to notsince98
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Only prepared/experienced hikers would think of taking a gun to some place so remote/desolate.
Not really. People who are scared of venomous snakes (like the several species of rattlesnakes found in that area) might carry one, as opposed to more experienced hikers who know how to avoid them.
Another article I read about this said he was a security guard, so he probably had a gun from his job.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 10:42 am
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:41 am to notsince98
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1) Only prepared/experienced hikers would think of taking a gun to some place so remote/desolate
What? I've personally seen the more experienced people get in non-large animal areas, the less likely they are to carry a gun. Even a small Shield with bullets weighs more than most multi day hikers are interested in carrying.
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