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re: Couple gets lost in national park, man kills her then himself after they ran out of water

Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:22 pm to
I'll blow my clippings into your driveway.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:23 pm to
You couldn’t pick a high ridge, sit still and wait for movement? They couldn’t have wondered far from the trail head. 2-3 nights on a high point, and they see something.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:25 pm to
I backpacked deep into Yosemite to fly fish and saw similar signs. I felt weird the whole time. Like something was watching.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:26 pm to
Not much detail in the story. Could have been injured or intoxicated or who knows what. Can't assume much from the info in the OP.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22808 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:31 pm to
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I believe you'd be a fool not to carry one. Feral animals, feral people, and God forbid you run out of water.

Hell of a way to quench thirst.

In the lower 48 the farthest you can be from a road is about 36 miles. This is a place in Yellowstone Park they claim is most remote from a road. Now hat won’t be a straight line and there will be many obstacles in the way. Point is you are never really far into wilderness as you think.

With the right supplies and a little knowledge you can walk out of just about any place. Murder-suicide sounds fishy. But dehydration and panic can do strange things.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:36 pm to
I’ve hiked Joshua Tree...there is no potable water in the park. You must pack in all you need. You can drink a gallon just driving around the park. We stuck to hikes under 3 miles and tried to do as many as possible. If they veered off path it would be easy to become disoriented...the yuccas all look the same.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:36 pm to
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With the right supplies and a little knowledge you can walk out of just about any place. Murder-suicide sounds fishy.

True but the national parks log hundreds of millions of visits per year and a lot of the visitors (probably the majority) have little wilderness knowledge or training.
Posted by Marfa
Esplanade
Member since Sep 2016
1523 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:38 pm to
Someone killed them both then planted the gun on them.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22808 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:41 pm to
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e national parks log hundreds of millions of visits per year and a lot of the visitors (probably the majority) have little wilderness knowledge or training.

Most have never left the pavement before in their life. It’s really surprising more don’t get lost for good.
Posted by NOLAManBlog
The Big Nasty
Member since Dec 2012
1225 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:42 pm to
Did he bang? No pun intended
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92381 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:44 pm to
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I felt weird the whole time. Like something was watching.
Probably an orca
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106116 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:51 pm to
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In the lower 48 the farthest you can be from a road is about 36 miles. This is a place in Yellowstone Park they claim is most remote from a road. Now hat won’t be a straight line and there will be many obstacles in the way. Point is you are never really far into wilderness as you 


That is true, but some of those roads you may not see anybody for a week, especially in the offseason. There are roads that shut down at the first snowfall and dont open again until May or June.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
12045 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:57 pm to
I heard they're just going to leave the bodies there, like Mt. Everest
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92381 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 11:59 pm to
Woah, no way..
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 6:55 am to
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The better question is who in the hell thinks it is a good idea to hike in a desert in July?




This. Only hikes I will do out here in July are short local ones and I'm on the trail by 4:30 am before the temps start rising and done hiking by 6:30.



Sad story though. This couple likely thought they were just gonna go exploring in the park on a nice hike for a fun day.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:44 am to
People rely on technology too much and forget to learn basic skills such as reading a compass and reading a map. I went to Big Bend last year. We were driving and were about 15 miles from our camp site and the GPS on my phone lost the signal. So I pulled out my old GPS that sticks on the windshield and it could never get a signaI as well. I never had a signal on my IPhone the entire time I was camping and it was basically just a camera for the trip. I also always carry a gun when I go camping or hiking in the woods. I have a conceal carry just for this reason because I don't want strange looks from other campers/hikers.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 8:45 am
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39265 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:16 am to
Reminds me of when I planned my first hike in death valley. A friend of a friend going wanted to go in July. I wish I could have seen my face when he said that. Told our friend he has no say so in planning this hike
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58630 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:23 am to
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Yeah, kind of strange to go hiking with a gun, especially if you're taking off from a B&B.


in Californian. not many kooks over there have firearms.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:32 am to
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People rely on technology too much and forget to learn basic skills such as reading a compass and reading a map


Bingo. Always carry topo maps in the backcountry.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15773 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:36 am to
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kind of strange to go hiking with a gun

shite fire. I think it would be strange to go into the woods without a pistol/gun. As a matter of fact, it's rare that I leave the house without being armed. Too many crazies out there.
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