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Couple gets lost in national park, man kills her then himself after they ran out of water

Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:55 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:55 am
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SAN FRANCISCO — Friends and relatives of a couple whose bodies were found in Joshua Tree National Park say they believe the two got lost while hiking in the sprawling desert park and struggled in the searing heat with little food or water before they died in a “sympathetic murder-suicide.”

Rachel Nguyen, 20, and Joseph Orbeso, 22, had been missing for nearly three months after going for a hike in late July and failing to return to their bed-and-breakfast. Their disappearance launched an exhaustive search. Crews spent more than 2,100 hours scouring the rugged terrain before finding their bodies in a steep canyon on Oct. 15.

Autopsies found both had gunshot wounds and evidence at the scene led detectives to believe Orbeso shot Nguyen and then himself, the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department said in a statement Friday. The stunning announcement came days after Orbeso’s father, who was with searchers who made the discovery, said the bodies were locked in an embrace.




This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:57 am to
3 months???
Wow.
Posted by toosleaux
Stuck in Baton Rouge traffic
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:58 am to
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Water? Not really.
Food? Nah.
Firearm and isolated place to possibly kill you? Check.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:59 am to
Must've been in really bad shape at that point.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:59 am to
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Water? Not really. Food? Nah. Firearm and isolated place to possibly kill you? Check.


Well, you're going to actually go through any food and water you have on you.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 9:59 am to
That's awful. Better than suffering and dying of dehydration I suppose.

That's would be a hard decision to make.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:00 am to
Yeah, kind of strange to go hiking with a gun, especially if you're taking off from a B&B.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:00 am to
Taking the whole "make me a sandwich" a bit too far don't you think?

Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:01 am to
I would think its a little easier to carry a gun than a 3 month supply of food and water.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:01 am to
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That's awful. Better than suffering and dying of dehydration I suppose.

That's would be a hard decision to make.


It is tragic, and I couldn't imagine making that choice.

I hate to sound like I'm victim-blaming, but I've seen so many people venture out into places like this woefully unprepared for these environments.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:02 am to
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Yeah, kind of strange to go hiking with a gun, especially if you're taking off from a B&B.

Was it a day hike or were they on a camping trip? I always take a firearm on camping trips.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:02 am to
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Yeah, kind of strange to go hiking with a gun


Strange maybe, absolutely fricking crazy when you remember it's California though. With the laws etc. out here regarding carrying. Seems very odd.
Posted by ptra
Member since Nov 2006
1464 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:04 am to
They never watched Survivor Man
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:04 am to
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Strange maybe, absolutely fricking crazy when you remember it's California though. With the laws etc. out here regarding carrying. Seems very odd.


National parks have open carry, unless you are in the visitor center or some other building.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:04 am to
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kind of strange to go hiking with a gun
I take mine every time I go hiking.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117276 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:07 am to
So, they brought a gun, but not water or a GPS.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:08 am to
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Yeah, kind of strange to go hiking with a gun


why?

Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:13 am to
Sounds more like plain old murder suicide than this BS mercy killing then suicide becuase they got lost.

Not many people in California go hiking through the national parks with a gun.

And I’ve been to Joshua Tree. Sure it’s very easy to get lost....if you stray away from the marked trails.

Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54204 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:14 am to
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kind of strange to go hiking with a gun,


what
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 10:15 am to
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Yeah, kind of strange to go hiking with a gun, especially if you're taking off from a B&B.



Especially in CA.

Sure I’m the south it doesn’t seem that strange but this whole thing just doesn’t add up.
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