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re: Cost to buy = $2,700/month. Cost to rent = $1,850/month

Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:23 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:23 am to
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There was a 1200 sq. ft house that sold for almost $500k a few weeks back I saw. Just laughable.
the house next door is 2bd 1bath 1290sqft older couple paid $1.2M for it... having to redo all the flooring, then flooring guy messed up and had to get someone else to come do the flooring, all the landscaping, remove some unpermited porch... said she has spend over $400k in the last 6 months.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64032 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:23 am to
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I would say they are being forced into serfdom because of their voting preferences.


This has been going on for multiple election cycles over decades.


What boomers voted for 40 years ago is coming home to roost today. Millennials simply haven't voted long enough to have that large of an effect and contrary to popular belief young people generally don't turn out in big numbers.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2259 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:23 am to
When and how? I’m hungry!
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23375 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:24 am to
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Yep, this is the other side of the issue. People aren't moving because their current mortgage is too good to give up.


I would only consider moving if my company wanted me to move. I don’t know if they could ever make it worthwhile in the current environmnt.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39637 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:25 am to
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the house next door is 2bd 1bath 1290sqft older couple paid $1.2M for it... having to redo all the flooring, then flooring guy messed up and had to get someone else to come do the flooring, all the landscaping, remove some unpermited porch... said she has spend over $400k in the last 6 months.


Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58918 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:25 am to
Just be a welder in rural Arkansas
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10478 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:26 am to
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7% mortgage rates

The difference between 3% and 7% for 400K is aprox 800-900/month. The reality is that historically 6% rates are the norm. 3% rates are extremely abnormal.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138072 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:27 am to
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I would say they are being forced into serfdom because of their voting preferences.


Sorry, but this problem is a bipartisan one. The republicans have done just as much to get us in this situation as anyone else.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7120 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:27 am to
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How long do you think the housing market can handle 7% mortgage rates? Mortgage applications are way down


The 80's say, "Hold my beer!"
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26809 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:28 am to
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3% rates are extremely abnormal.

Yes, but they existed for long enough that now a huge portion of owners are locked in at sub 4% rates, so the resulting distortion of home values can last literally decades and possibly become permanent.
Posted by Artificial Intel
Member since Jan 2023
210 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:28 am to
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It's obviously market specific


To that point I have rentals in highly transient cities, intentionally. So I’m porbably an exception. The one I have in Cali is in Monterey - highly desirable area and a transient military population. Also, while I don’t have the data laid out in front of me I’m pretty certain most of the south and east coast have been sheltered from the correction so far. All of my properties continue to appreciate.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
18407 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:29 am to
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This is why it annoys me when people shite on millennials and zoomers. They're being forced into serfdom due to criminal monetary policies.

We will all be serfs to companies like BlackRock eventually
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39637 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:29 am to
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The difference between 3% and 7% for 400K is aprox 800-900/month. The reality is that historically 6% rates are the norm. 3% rates are extremely abnormal.



Sure. By the same reasoning though, 6% on a $400k starter house is extremely abnormal too.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 11:30 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179361 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:31 am to
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The difference between 3% and 7% for 400K is aprox 800-900/month. The reality is that historically 6% rates are the norm. 3% rates are extremely abnormal.




Comparing apples to oranges without taking into account all factors including how slow wage growth has been vs home price appreciation. That wasn't as much of a factor in previous times when rates were this high.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 11:32 am
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
9213 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:33 am to
wrong
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:33 am to
It’s kind of refreshing seeing idiots afraid of 7%. We're worse than that economically and that is ignored.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465759 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:35 am to
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I would say they are being forced into serfdom because of their voting preferences.

They voted for Trump?

We probably aren't even feeling Biden's inflation yet.

Also, even ignoring the current political landscape, this was the Boomer generation at yutes:



And this was GenX:





I imagine they weren't voting for too many Republicans back in the day
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26809 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:36 am to
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wrong

Cheap money has in fact been a bipartisan policy since 2008.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465759 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:37 am to
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The reality of the situation is that these kids have gone to college, amassed a massive amount of debt (because universities are expanding unnecessarily due to charging these kids out the arse because they have government backed loans), and are having to dig themselves out of debt by working for wages that are completely stagnant and only allow for them to barely stay above water.

The idea of buying a house, starting a family, and being financially stable in the long term before 30 is becoming less and less attainable even for people who work hard.

Boomers and older GenX will NEVER admit this.

Times have changed and it's worse for youths. Yes, the goods are generally better (other than the albatross in college), but that doesn't make up the full difference. Other than this, they don't even really have a reply.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38412 posts
Posted on 5/24/23 at 11:38 am to
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You can thank Ftard Biden
Oh right - you were addicted to your artificially low interest rates. What a surprise.
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