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re: Contingency plan needed for I-12....

Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58616 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

think he's referring to the fact that taxpayers were paying for that mfer for 15 years and it wasn't built before the 2016 flood when they KNEW it would be necessary in a catastrophic flood event.


and that is hte tax payers fault for electing the same people to office that kicked the can down the road.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15165 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:53 pm to
Understand fluid dynamics and get back to the board.....


just because you perceive it a problem doesn't mean its a problem.....
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:54 pm to
I am being 100% serious. Louisiana citizens need to become more vocal and hold politicians more accountable, because Louisiana really does need infrastructure improvements.

While I know every state has its issues, Louisiana has to be one of the worst when it comes to infrastructure. And if everyone waits for the politicians to do anything on their own, they will just keep avoiding it.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58616 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

DOTD is being sued by the City of Walker over that
and they will lose.
quote:

they probably think that putting openings in the divider now would be an admission of guilt.


no it is to appease the public.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41636 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:58 pm to
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do peoeple not realize that if there was no I-12 barrier twice as many people would have flooded than what did.


Sure. But maybe only half as bad on the north side.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58616 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Sure. But maybe only half as bad on the north side.
you do know there is no difference in damage to your house from 8" of water and 3' of water right?
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18362 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

hold politicians more accountable


This is pretty funny... Good one OweO
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14536 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:03 pm to
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Someone needs to start knocking a few holes in that dam - NOW!!!

There is a fella (aka baw) north of Albany that goes by the name of 3 Finger Bubba who can blow shite up ... lives in a doublewide at the end of Wardline road at the LP/TG line. He likes Nattylite.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76146 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:08 pm to
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While I know every state has its issues, Louisiana has to be one of the worst when it comes to infrastructure.
Your mistake here is to compare Louisiana to US States.

This will never end well for Louisiana.

Reconcile yourself to the fact that Louisiana is one of the best Caribbean nations on the fricking planet.

All of a sudden, we’re golden Jerry!
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8582 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:08 pm to
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do peoeple not realize that if there was no I-12 barrier twice as many people would have flooded than what did.
Homes flooded north of it that otherwise would not have. And not nearly as many people live south of I-12 as do north of it.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49099 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:11 pm to
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and that is hte tax payers fault for electing the same people to office that kicked the can down the road.




Most definitely. But the primary issue was not the elected people but the Nimby Culture that is preserved in Louisiana aka the same reason we can't get a frickin Loop Built.

The property owners in the project's path fought like hell and tied up the project in courts for years.

Whatever Texas does needs to be done here. We gone build this here road or whatever the frick we need for this area and you can take the market value for your property or frick off. We comin!
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17753 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Your mistake here is to compare Louisiana to US States.

This will never end well for Louisiana.

Reconcile yourself to the fact that Louisiana is one of the best Caribbean nations on the fricking planet.

All of a sudden, we’re golden Jerry!


F That... The God Damn Dominican Republic has a better highway system than LA...
Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
3392 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:14 pm to
They drilled holes and put in drains. I drive it daily.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31138 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:14 pm to
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My favorite concept in Civil Law. Something wrong? Well don’t fix it now, that will just screw you more.


In general, subsequent remedial conduct may not be proffered in civil cases in order to prove negligence.

It is somewhat difficult to get remedial conduct into evidence since there is a strong public policy argument to avoid deterring individuals from making improvements or repairs after an accident.

While many entities and attorneys advising them avoid remedial conduct a properly planned defense can all but assure those are never an issue in a civil case. That said while it is fairly easy to avoid and there are lots of journal articles about remedial action admissibility I have seen lots of what I considered good defense attorneys botch their evidentiary presentation and open the door to allow lack of remedial action into evidence.

The long and short of it from my POV is fix it and have good counsel.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17242 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:15 pm to
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August 2016 the north side of 1-12 was 4’ deep while the south side was clear.


Only in that cropped picture of a high spot that got everyone worked up. If you planned out you could see water was flowing just fine around that high spot.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:17 pm to
i was told we would all have personal flying cars by now, where are they?
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31624 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

do peoeple not realize that if there was no I-12 barrier twice as many people would have flooded than what did

Um.... that’s not how that works.

If the volume of water is constant, increasing the area would lower the level of water.

Yes there possibly could have been houses on the south side of 12 that would have flooded. But it likely would’ve substantially lowered the level of damage on the north side.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:20 pm to
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Who can we contact? I-12 center barrier has no flow through drainage from the Amite River to Satsuma exit. August 2016 the north side of 1-12 was 4’ deep while the south side was clear.
Rain estimates are 25”+ possible for Livingston Parish. Someone needs to start knocking a few holes in that dam - NOW!!!



Since you are making a wish list, you should add an alternative east-west route south of I-12 between Denham and Hammond.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25330 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:20 pm to
Has a study been done yet. You don't get anything done in La without a study.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42720 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 3:29 pm to
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Believe it or not, work has started on the canal. If they started on it the day following the flood, it still wouldn’t be done


If they would have started on it the day they were supposed to it would have been done decades ago
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