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re: Constitutional lawyers : Is Walmart demand to show receipt legal?

Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:29 pm to
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Which torts would that be?


depending on the way it played out, you might have assault, battery, trespass to chattels, false imprisonment, intentional infliction of emotional distress, defamation
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79702 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:31 pm to
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Its the presumptive nature of the corporation that I find offensive.


So you find fault with the reaction of the corporation instead of the dick bags that have stolen from them necessitating said reaction?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41713 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:32 pm to
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The officer had a city police car parked in front of the store. Not sure if he was on a paid detail. This was in a small town.



Our parish deputies have take-home cars. When working detail at places such as WalMart, they wear their full uniform, including issued weapon, and park their patrol car out front.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:34 pm to
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I told the officer that demanding to see my receipt was a violation of my constitutional rights

Which right is that, exactly?
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13261 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:34 pm to
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Ok Karen, the appropriate response would be for you to find another place to shop. I'd also be fine if WalMart banned you from shopping there, since you don't want to follow their rules.


I stopped and paid for my purchases. No other rules of commerce are applicable.

You and others on here who believe you should be mandated to show your receipt to a sentinel or face police interrogation best stock up on lube. You will need it when you reach the exit door.
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9560 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Its the presumptive nature of the corporation that I find offensive


quote:

I find it offensive that shoppers


Snow
Flake

Be less offended.

You have to be mid 20's.

Good grief. Zero chance you get through life.

Hope my post does not offend you.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:41 pm to
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assault, battery,


As I said earlier, that is possible but it's a weak claim.

quote:

trespass to chattels


What moveable property were they interfering with? The receipt? Good luck with that argument.

quote:

false imprisonment


Can't have this if there was a reasonable means of escape known to the person, which there was.

quote:

IIED


Good luck showing that asking for a receipt was extreme or outrageous conduct.

quote:

defamation


No way. The attendant told the police that he wouldn't show his receipt, which was true. Truth is always a defense against defamation.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13261 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:41 pm to
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So you find fault with the reaction of the corporation instead of the dick bags that have stolen from them necessitating said reaction?


Its not my job to assure loss prevention at the store. There are many other situations where our safety and property would be safer if similar processes were enacted but there are constitutional safeguards preventing this.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41713 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:43 pm to
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You and others on here who believe you should be mandated


I never said that.

I said a company has the right to do this if you want to use their business. Not mandated. The right to do so. And no one is forcing you to go there, Karen. Find another place.
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3736 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:48 pm to
I say you’re a fricking idiot.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

Is Walmart demand to show receipt legal?

Is Walmart the government?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:50 pm to
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:52 pm to
There is case law in regards to this.

They can ask, you can refuse. There is no recourse for them if you do so.

But only a private club (Costco/Sams) has the ability to punish (by revoking membership.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13261 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:54 pm to
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said a company has the right to do this if you want to use their business. Not mandated. The right to do so


They have the right to do what they want and they exercised it. So do I and I exercised my right to refuse. My question was is there any legal premise for them to demand I show the receipt or be subject to police intervention.

Very simple question. If it does not bother you , fair enough. If you think it is a small issue to an extent you may be right. I choose to stand up to what I believe are incorrect policies . I am not certain what justifies a store banning a customer , but I suppose they could elect to do so for refusing to show a receipt and lose the substantial business they get from me.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:57 pm to
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They have the right to do what they want and they exercised it. So do I and I exercised my right to refuse. My question was is there any legal premise for them to demand I show the receipt or be subject to police intervention.

Very simple question. If it does not bother you , fair enough. If you think it is a small issue to an extent you may be right. I choose to stand up to what I believe are incorrect policies . I am not certain what justifies a store banning a customer , but I suppose they could elect to do so for refusing to show a receipt and lose the substantial business they get from me.


Are you really like this IRL? You can’t possibly be this much of a loser.
Posted by carguymatt
Member since Aug 1998
Member since Jun 2015
1128 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:57 pm to
What difference does it make to them what you actually bought? Maybe they want to glance it over and verify it actually looks like what's in the cart. Not 10 things in the cart and 3 on the receipt sort of deal? You're a customer trading for their goods in their store. There's nothing illegal about, unethical or unconstitutional about it. Stop being a trouble maker and stop being a loser.

People sit on these boards and argue and call others rude names but you sincerely seem to me like a miserable loser.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:59 pm to
Walmart isn't the government, though if someone grabbed me I'd be freaking pissed.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13261 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:02 pm to
quote:


People sit on these boards and argue and call others rude names but you sincerely seem to me like a miserable loser.


People who lose the intellectual argument resort to ad hominem attacks.

quote:

There's nothing illegal about, unethical or unconstitutional about it.


So lets flip the question - Do you agree there's nothing illegal about, unethical or unconstitutional about refusing to show a receipt when asked?
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:02 pm to
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civil libertarians


shite like this makes me hate the libertarian movement and the clowns like sovereign citizens who have taken control of it.

It's a private business on their property, therefore you're beholden to their rules. You don't have a right to shop there.

I love it how someone claims they're a libertarian and all for private property rights but don't like what people do on their private property within the letter of the law.

You shouldn't need a lawyer to tell you this. It's common fricking sense.
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