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re: Constitutional lawyers : Is Walmart demand to show receipt legal?

Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:45 pm to
The Constitution doesn't apply to interactions between private entities.
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:47 pm to
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Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:47 pm to
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The Constitution doesn't apply to interactions between private entities.


Same thing apply when the police intervene??
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:48 pm to
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While other people are waiting to get their receipt checked, I just walk around them. Nobody has ever told me anything


Same here.

Now if a Walmart employee puts his hands on me over a receipt, that opens up a whole new can of worms.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:48 pm to
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Since when did making purchases, going through a checkout with an employee, paying for my purchases and attempting to walk out the store with my legally purchased items become acting like an a-hole. I do the same thing in 99% of other businesses that I visit.


Does the person at the door know any of that actually happened?

quote:

Rather judgmental about the clientele. You a Democrat.
Wouldn't matter if I had two small bags they would have asked for the receipt.

Judgmental?

And they don’t ever ask to see a receipt if items are bagged. What were you buying?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:51 pm to
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Same thing apply when the police intervene??


According to your original post, you were never detained, so no. Police can ask you stuff all they want without constitutional restriction.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:52 pm to
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Does the person at the door know any of that actually happened?


I don't have to prove anything tot he person at the door.
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And they don’t ever ask to see a receipt if items are bagged. What were you buying?


Yes they do. But if there are unbagged items is that the fault of the customer or the company refusing to provide larger baqs?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76241 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:52 pm to
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And they don’t ever ask to see a receipt if items are bagged. What were you buying?


Jokes on those frickers. I have a whole garbage can full of Walmart bags.
They never ask for a receipt if your shite is in a bag.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:53 pm to
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Same thing apply when the police intervene??


In this case, with absolute certainty the answer is yes. The Constitution literally has zero bearing on your interaction with that officer.

Seriously, how are you not getting this?
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:54 pm to
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I don't have to prove anything to the person at the door


fricking right
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13261 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:54 pm to
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According to your original post, you were never detained, so no. Police can ask you stuff all they want without constitutional restriction.


I responded tot he officer and told him I was not obligated to show the receipt to the sentinel or to him. The sentinel confirmed they were not accusing me of a crime. I bid both adieu and walked away.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13261 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:57 pm to
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The Constitution literally has zero bearing on your interaction with that officer.


Huh?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:58 pm to
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I responded tot he officer and told him I was not obligated to show the receipt to the sentinel or to him. The sentinel confirmed they were not accusing me of a crime. I bid both adieu and walked away.


Ok.

Like I said, there are no constitutional implications.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 6:01 pm to
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Like I said, there are no constitutional implications.


However there are Traveling implications.

Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 6:03 pm to
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Huh?


The interaction between you and the officer was entirely legal and doesn't even come close to violating any sort of Constitutional right. And this isn't even a grey area of the law. That's the answer.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 6:06 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178364 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 6:05 pm to
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Walmart is not the government.

Let’s not be so sure here.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
11026 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 6:06 pm to
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Wouldn't matter if I had two small bags they would have asked for the receipt.


i have literally never in my life been asked for a receipt if all items are bagged.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 6:07 pm to
Hell I didn't even realize they asked for receipts at walmarks. I thought that was just a Sams/Costco thing.

Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
13261 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 6:11 pm to
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The interaction between you and the officer was entirely legal and doesn't even come close to violating any sort of Constitutional right


As I said the Constitution applies and governed the interaction. Neither the officer nor I violated the Constitution.

I violated no laws by refusing to show the receipt. Ergo, I had no obligation to show the receipt regardless of the motive or the legal right of the store to ask. The store cannot demand to see the receipt under penalty or any consequences.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 6:13 pm to
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Neither the officer nor I violated the Constitution.




You cannot violate the Constitution.







(unless you work for the government . . . )
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