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re: Colonial Pipeline gave in: $5,000,000 paid to ransomware hackers

Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32674 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:55 am to
Damn those are some honest hackers to actually follow through with giving back the systems after payment. But that probably sets a precedent that they’re more likely to get paid in the future
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10927 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:59 am to
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We are living in a country run by pussy arse children.


No, we live in a country where defending your political side is paramount to everything.

This pipeline is a "private sector issue" is the talking point today. Yet the fed literally cancelled the Keystone pipeline, which I guess isn't a private sector issue?

You can't have it both ways. Either you control pipelines or you don't. But we know they would never admit that this is a deflection because this administration is awful at everything so far.


Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
14125 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:09 am to
And you will make up the loss via higher gas prices... they do not care about the consumer...
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36334 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:11 am to
When pirates were attacking merchant ships in the Caribbean the British navy took action.

Modern day pirates attack our pipeline and joe says “meh”


This Biden’s America thanks to the types who post in the woke sports board
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23391 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:34 am to
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Cowards


How did they guarantee the hackers weren't pulling a Nigerian prince scheme and would fix the code after payment?


Easy to say when you're not facing a possible extended shutdown and maybe even the company going under.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 11:35 am
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23391 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:37 am to
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I'm guessing their CIO is looking for a different career now.


Chances are they'll be blamed, but a zero day cannot be defended against. Neither can stupid users that click anything and everything that comes into their email.
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
21581 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:44 am to
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blow up the us government and start from scratch if we cant even handle a situation like this




Colonial Pipeline is a private company. They aren't part of a government entity.


ETA...are you saying that we need more governmental regulations covering pipeline operations/infrastructure?
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 11:46 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36334 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:53 am to
I think he’s referring to the fact that throughout history piracy against private citizens was treated as a crime and a national security issue and now the current administration’s response to an act of piracy against a company that affects every single sector of commerce (energy) was a shoulder shrug


That shoulder shrug will only embolden future acts.

But it’s ok because it’s your team
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 11:54 am
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:55 am to
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This pipeline is a "private sector issue" is the talking point today. Yet the fed literally cancelled the Keystone pipeline, which I guess isn't a private sector issue?


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You can't have it both ways. Either you control pipelines or you don't.





Any entity, regardless of Private or Public Sector, must conform to permitting requirements...so in that aspect, you can have it both ways. Private entities are still regulated to some extent. Just because you are a private sector company, it doesn't mean that you are completely unregulated, and that those regulations can't be used to constrain your activities.


Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19434 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 11:57 am to
Some American baws hanging out in a living room with a shite ton of servers just made 5 million
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1599 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 12:21 pm to
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I think he’s referring to the fact that throughout history piracy against private citizens was treated as a crime and a national security issue and now the current administration’s response to an act of piracy against a company that affects every single sector of commerce (energy) was a shoulder shrug


That shoulder shrug will only embolden future acts.


You can't compare this to the piracy of old where the pirate had to physically be there. Black beard steals your ship back in the cut it's gonna be much less of a challenge to find him than tracking down DarkSide in this world of anonymity we live in today.
Posted by ArmydawgMD
Member since Sep 2020
708 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 12:44 pm to
Do not negotiate with terrorists. Prepare for future attempts, cause this one was successful.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36334 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 12:46 pm to
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You can't compare this to the piracy of old where the pirate had to physically be there. Black beard steals your ship back in the cut it's gonna be much less of a challenge to find him than tracking down DarkSide in this world of anonymity we live in today.




And shutting down a pipeline on the eastern seaboard impacts a lot more people than Blackbeard boarding on merchant ship.


It’s ridiculous to say “that’s a private sector decision” when this impacts national security.

Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18774 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 12:51 pm to
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You can't compare this to the piracy of old where the pirate had to physically be there. Black beard steals your ship back in the cut it's gonna be much less of a challenge to find him than tracking down DarkSide in this world of anonymity we live in today.


"Hey, this might be difficult."

"Yeah, we should just quit"
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29173 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 12:58 pm to
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How did they guarantee the hackers weren't pulling a Nigerian prince scheme and would fix the code after payment?


Because if word got out that they didn't unlock everything, then they'd never get another ransom payment again. To keep the scam going, you have to deliver on your side of things.

I said it in another thread related to this, but we got hit one time with ransomware, but we were back up within a couple hours because we had a solid recovery protocol. Granted we're smaller than Colonial, but still. Our IT guys nuked the system, did a restore, and we were good to go. It infected a couple dozen workstations, including our main manufacturing server. It was money well spent to be prepared.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11151 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 1:12 pm to
Biden takes office, everything goes to shite. Coincidence, I think not.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30005 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 1:35 pm to
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Damn those are some honest hackers to actually follow through with giving back the systems after payment. But that probably sets a precedent that they’re more likely to get paid in the future


This has been going on for years with municipal governments and hospitals in particular. In most cases they pay and almost universally control has been given back to the owner.

Everyone else always wants the entity to take a stand but it is always cheaper and easier to pay the ransom. From what I have seen the ransom is usually an amount that hurts just a little but isn't enough the company/government can possibly pay. The fact that these hackers be it one group or hundreds keeps giving back the keys to the kingdom is why it continues to work.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38109 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 1:37 pm to
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Colonial Pipeline is a private company. They aren't part of a government entity.


ETA...are you saying that we need more governmental regulations covering pipeline operations/infrastructure?
no im saying the FBI/CIA/etc should be able to step in and catch someone that is committing a crime of this nature thats effecting the public before they get what they want
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7586 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 1:45 pm to
OK, who is next ?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59333 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 1:48 pm to
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this world of anonymity we live in today.


One could argue that we’re living in a time of the LEAST anonymity in history.
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