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re: CNBC: To land Meta’s massive $10 billion data center, Louisiana pulled out all the stops

Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4282 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:59 pm to
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How much in taxes does empty land owned by the state pay?




Meta could pay one singular dollar in taxes and generate one singular job and it would be a net positive for the area where that center will be located.


How much resource demand do the woods generate?? Do you think the power demand would be subsidized by residential consumers as so many posters suggest?? That dollar is not coming to you just because.

How many singular dollars are actually generated if there are billions *pinky out* in tax breaks?? Also, what might the pitfalls be of valuing things in dollars exclusively?? Is this a temporary project with a short term impact??

I'm probably as pro AI as anyone on the board but again this stuff is controversial for a reason.

Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8070 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:59 pm to
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There’s going to be billions of dollars of equipment subject to sales and property taxes located in the state and parish


Bro never heard of ITEP
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:06 pm to
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Regardless, I was surprised to see that they have an exemption for both sales and use tax


Use tax is just a compensating tax for whenever sales tax isn’t charged

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Every contractor working at the site gets a tax exemption certificate?


No, every contractor can accept an exemption certificate from meta for qualified work.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8070 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:12 pm to
If y’all think these tax abatements are great, just keep in mind that the paper mill in Bogalusa, the very thing that makes Bogalusa awful, gets the same exemptions. Tell me how that’s worth it? Especially when the only people that work there are third generation mill employees. Tell me how the average person benefits. The answer is easy, we don’t.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26666 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 12:04 am to
So the Southern Spirit transmission line is not going to help with all that?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30527 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 12:18 am to
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Ain't much coming in for a got damn data center after it's up and running


Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12462 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 12:40 am to
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Meta could pay one singular dollar in taxes and generate one singular job and it would be a net positive for the area where that center will be located.

Unless there's another company that could pay a single dollar or create a single job without also getting billions in subsidies.

There's no way this is the best, most efficient use of that property for the people of that area or the state. This is just JBE wanting to be able to say he brought Meta to LA, damn the cost.

Or if he has higher aspirations, buddying up to a tech oligarch.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 12:43 am
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 3:58 am to
lol good luck, no one wants to move to that shithole part of the state. Not even if they sweeten the deal
Posted by Optimism
Member since Jun 2024
924 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 5:50 am to
The land has been vacant and generating nothing since the state bought it this is a net positive for North LA
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
40383 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 5:52 am to
This thread is hilarious. 10/10
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7182 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 6:33 am to
Im no expert on data centers, but I am an expert on film production. Everything in the press about the new film legislation has been bullshite, so since the source is the same, I assume everything about this data center is similarly bullshite.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11299 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 6:34 am to
"Will it be worth it?"

How would it not? Not taking certain in taxes is NOT giving someone something. The state government just doesn't get something it already didn't have. But now we have jobs and those people's income taxes.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74898 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:01 am to
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the paper mill in Bogalusa, the very thing that makes Bogalusa awful
Bogalusa has about the same population as does Norwalk, Iowa.

If tomorrow morning the populations switched cities, you’d find out what the very thing that makes Bogalusa awful is.

HINT: It ain’t the paper mill.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6785 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:20 am to
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"Will it be worth it?"


Yes

I am not sure some of the southern Louisiana citizens realize just how poverty stricken NELA actually is. NELA may be the poorest area in the nation. It is truly heartbreaking just how poor and poverty stricken those NELA parishes are.

Any deal like META in Richland Parish will help and has to be done. It will spur additional growth and economic development…..and it is something those poor folks in those very rural parishes desperately need.

The entire state needs to be asking what can they do to help make the META deal work. This one deal has the potential to change NELA for decades….for the positive.

Spending money to start META up and running will help develop an economy up there.

Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:21 am to
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This part is important. I actually do the tax work of these actual data centers.

H&R Block’s finest proving once again that he has no idea what the frick he’s talking about
Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
3600 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:26 am to
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I bet Francis Thompson has already figured out how to get his cut.


Did you mean “Already got”?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:34 am to
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Yes

I am not sure some of the southern Louisiana citizens realize just how poverty stricken NELA actually is. NELA may be the poorest area in the nation. It is truly heartbreaking just how poor and poverty stricken those NELA parishes are.

Any deal like META in Richland Parish will help and has to be done. It will spur additional growth and economic development…..and it is something those poor folks in those very rural parishes desperately need.

The entire state needs to be asking what can they do to help make the META deal work. This one deal has the potential to change NELA for decades….for the positive.

Spending money to start META up and running will help develop an economy up there.



No argument from me. Generally I'm not a huge fan of data centers being touted as a huge economic win, but this is going to be the largest data center in the western hemisphere, and it's not going in a place where there is a massive constraint for land but a huge need for jobs. Definitely an impressive project, and there will be a lot of additional local tax revenue collected with 5,000 people running around locally during construction and the new direct jobs afterward. It's a big deal for an area that needs the economic activity.

It's not a car plant (which IMO would have been better and more "jobs dense") or the new Steel mill proposed for Donaldsonville, but it will still be transformational for that region. And I'm glad we are not handing out tax credits for something like a solar farm again that consumes a massive amount of space but doesn't produce a lot of energy or jobs for anyone. And it's definitely better for the local economy than leaving the land undeveloped.

Between the data center and the powerplants to support it, we should see 500+ new jobs in an area that desperately needs it. It also is a very good thing that CNBC is covering this. We all know Landry is a questionable governor, but not everyone else outside of the state does. And big headlines on Hyundai and Meta investing in the state is a very good thing.

What I am most afraid of round all of this is Entergy building new powerplants in Texas or Mississippi but charging Louisiana customers fees for the investment needed to transmit electricity to this new data center. That's NOT okay. Entergy does a horrific job at maintaining an acceptable service level as it is today. Basically Entergy is going to piss everyone off because they suck. I hate them. I don't trust them. Their infrastructure in this state is terrible and they are a huge embarassment.

I don't see the data center attracting many other support businesses other than powerplants, which is definitely something for an area that needs the jobs. But I have high hopes that the EAF Steel Mill going up in the Baton Rouge area could help the gulf coast region attract more durable goods manufacturing for things like automobiles, aircraft parts, agricultural equipment, etc. Those all tend to bring in a lot of suppliers and support businesses.
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 7:47 am
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39683 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:37 am to
Exactly.

I wonder how many people commenting have every been up to that area?

It makes Bougalusa look like a thriving metropolis.

Also, Lake Providence police are thieves.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37812 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:38 am to
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Unless there's another company that could pay a single dollar or create a single job without also getting billions in subsidies.




There isn’t.


Did you miss the part about the state owning the land for 20 years because they were trying to attract a manufacturing plant?



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There's no way this is the best, most efficient use of that property for the people of that area or the state.



It is.






Nela has been bleeding jobs for the last 30 years.


Anything is better than nothing
This post was edited on 6/26/25 at 7:39 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:50 am to
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There's no way this is the best, most efficient use of that property for the people of that area or the state


You ever been to the area between rayville and Delhi?
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