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re: CNBC: To land Meta’s massive $10 billion data center, Louisiana pulled out all the stops

Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75223 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:34 pm to
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The state offered billions of dollars in tax breaks to win the project, and the local utility will supply three new power plants.

fricking bullshite.

These companies should be required to fund, build, and maintain their own damn power plants. You can rest assured that the people will foot this bill and be litte the better for this shite.
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:35 pm to
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They always overstate the number of jobs to get more tax breaks and increase the odds of it getting the ok. I'd be good money it'll be around half that.


There are typically a minimum number of jobs that have to be located there with wage requirements. And wages are the revenue drivers for projects like these. There’s going to be billions of dollars of equipment subject to sales and property taxes located in the state and parish. All of which will need to be repaired, maintained, and replaced.
Posted by b_w
Member since Dec 2016
311 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:37 pm to
From the article doesn't look like they will be paying any sales tax:

Last June, only six months after taking office, Republican Gov. Jeff Landry signed into law a 20-year sales tax exemption for data centers built before 2029. The fact that the state was courting Meta at the time was not disclosed.

“The Meta folks made it clear to us from day one that in order for a project like this to happen in any state, that exemption or rebate — whatever the formula is — has to exist,” Bourgeois said.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:40 pm to
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From the article doesn't look like they will be paying any sales tax:


Racks, shelves, conduits, all sorts of shite doesn’t qualify for the exemption

Edit: conduit actually does qualify for the Louisiana exemption. It does not in Texas
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36224 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:42 pm to
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they provide relatively few jobs and consume massive amounts of resources.


This.


You will get some construction jobs to build the facility and power plants. Although that won’t necessarily employ a lot of local people. That will fill up some hotels and restaurants for a while.

After that, it will likely employ a few dozen people and eat up a ton of electricity. That being said, creating a few dozen jobs for people in Delhi, Mangham or Start isn’t anything to sneeze at.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105316 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:44 pm to
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Last June, only six months after taking office, Republican Gov. Jeff Landry signed into law a 20-year sales tax exemption for data centers built before 2029. The fact that the state was courting Meta at the time was not disclosed.


Translation: The local schools will have to absorb several hundred new students with no increase in funds to offset the impact. When I heard of the project I thought if nothing else panned out the sales tax revenue would be a big infusion to the local economy. The exemption changes that calculation quite a bit.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110973 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:45 pm to
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Racks, shelves, conduits, all sorts of shite doesn’t qualify for the exemption


Looks like the list of shite they are exempting likely covers all of this.

LINK
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:46 pm to
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The local schools will have to absorb several hundred new students with no increase in funds to offset the impact.


What?

quote:

When I heard of the project I thought if nothing else panned out the sales tax revenue would be a big infusion to the local economy. The exemption changes that calculation quite a bit.


Most states have a data center exemption
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:46 pm to
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Looks like the list of shite they are exempting likely covers all of this.


It does not
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110973 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:49 pm to
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It does not


Did you read the list there? It's hard to fathom what part of anything involving that facility would not be covered by this exemption. I guess maybe the break room fridge?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:51 pm to
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Did you read the list there?


Yes

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"Data center equipment" means equipment or software purchased or leased for the processing, storage, retrieval, or communication of data including all of the following:


Bolded part is very important
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110973 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:53 pm to
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Bolded part is very important


So are (i)-(xi) beyond that.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:55 pm to
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So are (i)-(xi) beyond that.


All of which defines what I bolded

Let me know when you actually qualify data centers. I’ve done so many times
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110973 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:56 pm to
What am I missing here? What else is going in there?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 4:57 pm to
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What am I missing here? What else is going in there?


Millions of dollars worth of shite that doesn’t process, store, or retrieve, or process data.

One rack can be $15k-$20k, they’ll likely have hundreds (maybe thousands) of them in this facility
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19762 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 5:00 pm to
Wonder who is going to build all of that? Hopefully some Louisiana Contractors get some work
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110973 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 5:01 pm to
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(b) The term "data center equipment" shall not mean office equipment or supplies, equipment or supplies used primarily in sales activities or transportation activities, tangible personal property not listed in Subparagraph (a) of this Paragraph that is incorporated into immovable property, and tangible personal property that is rented or leased for a term of one year or less.


This is all that's being taxed bruh. It's going to have the tax revenue impact of a generic suburban office park builing.

I'm not even against this shite. I will take a business doing something over a vacant piece property doing jack shite all day every day. I'm just not going to buy that this will be some massive tax revenue windfall for our state.
Posted by b_w
Member since Dec 2016
311 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 5:01 pm to
geezus take the loss read the document. racks are in there so is everything else:
(vi) Computer server equipment, including chassis, networking equipment, switches, racks, fiber optic and copper cabling, trays, and conduit.


also i am for this deal
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 5:04 pm to
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geezus take the loss read the document. racks are in there so is everything else:


quote:

Computer server equipment, including


This part is important. I actually do the tax work of these actual data centers.
Posted by footswitch
Meridianville, Alabama
Member since Apr 2015
4701 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 5:09 pm to
I have one of these less than a mile from me in Meridianville, Alabama.
I loathe Zuckerberg.
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