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re: CDC releases new estimates of Coronavirus fatality rate
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:41 am to AMS
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:41 am to AMS
quote:I'm thinking moreso recent severe US flu seasons, what was the fatality rate there?
Past severe flu seasons like Spanish, pandemics killed 0.5-1+% of the world, I doubt you’ll find anything near an accurate fatality rate from known infections from numbers old like that
It's been hinted all along that from a fatality rate, COVID is closer to a severe flu. So seeing how the CDC is essentially stating a rate of .26% and knowing the avg flu season is .1%, i'm interested to know what that number is for a severe, or one of the worst more recent US flu seasons.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:43 am to klrstix
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I believe it was CS Lewis that basically said the most insidious form of Tyranny is that which believes they know what is best for you and therefore have not merely the right but moral imperative to use any means necessary (including force.. ) to gain your compliance..
that is a paraphrase...
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:45 am to lsu xman
Because we could save just one life
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:48 am to Senor Sandwich
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How did you know my profession?!?? Are you Nostradamus?

This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 11:52 am
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:50 am to shel311
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It's been hinted all along that from a fatality rate, COVID is closer to a severe flu. So seeing how the CDC is essentially stating a rate of .26% and knowing the avg flu season is .1%, i'm interested to know what that number is for a severe, or one of the worst more recent US flu seasons.
I think more recent severe flu seasons were more or less in line with this. Except with COVID death age avg is older than the average age of death in general. Flu is hard on young population and old pop
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:58 am to AMS
I'm just here to bitch at the "we need a cure first before we can go back to normal" people.
Because 99% of them went about their business prior to March of 2020 with no sure fire "cure" for influenza and didn't scream about cures then
Because 99% of them went about their business prior to March of 2020 with no sure fire "cure" for influenza and didn't scream about cures then
Posted on 5/22/20 at 12:41 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Where do these quotes come from?
the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is estimating that about a third of coronavirus infections are asymptomatic.
The CDC also says its "best estimate" is that 0.4% of people who show symptoms and have Covid-19 will die, and the agency estimates that 40% of coronavirus transmission is occurring before people feel sick.
I'm not seeing them in the link from the OP
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:02 pm to Klark Kent
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and you can continue to be naive in your belief that those 2 lists are being treated equally by the national media. that's fine. but for most of us it is black and white. Clearly: one side has a D next to their names and are crowned as heroes and brave and doing the right thing. The other side has an R next to their names and have been painted as careless and reckless pushing to save the economy while letting thousands die. none of said opinions are based on any facts or metrics. in fact, the #'s would actually show the exact opposite and prove how biased they are and how foolish the sheep are that believe them.
keep playing the naive card and acting like there isn't a huge difference.
How the frick am I the naive one when my whole point is that both parties are bullshite.
When you say national media who are you referring to? In the morning I watch CBS news when I am getting ready. I watch it just to get a summary of what's going on in the world and I feel like they are fair. If its a politically related story, they will either give the other side's take on it or say that they reached out to whatever the other side of the story is with no comment.
Although it is assumed, not EVERY member of the media is liberal. And just because there is a report you don't agree with doesn't mean that the report is "biased". But of course when you get into CNN, Fox, etc.. That is their business. They established what political side they favor, people who share the same views watch those channels so their job is to provide content they want to hear.
Fox is national news right? They are conservative. Rush Limbaugh is.. Or was the biggest name in talk radio. I am not sure what you are trying to say, but my whole point is that both political parties are pretty much the same in terms of their goals, the only different between the two are their platforms. Both are controlled by special interest and when it comes down to it, their best interest isn't you.. It isn't the every day people. I can see how it seems like you have to pick a side, but I think for the best interest for the average person and the country itself, people need to stop buying into one side or the other, stop buying into all the bullshite that is done to divide people in order to build more loyal supporters and start doing things to keep these politicians in check.
Start voting for bullshite candidates instead of the two major parties. This country deserves better than to have to pick from two jackasses to be our president.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:11 pm to DollaChoppa
Based on wildly inaccurate computer models, a fact your tiny brain had forgotten.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:37 pm to shel311
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Where do these quotes come from? I'm not seeing them in the link from the OP
They come from a CNN article which describes the CDC data. It’s accurate, I just didn’t want to link CNN and would rather go straight to the source.
It’s clearer if you open up the chart in the CDC link and look at the 5th scenario. It’s the average of all of their possible scenarios.
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 5/22/20 at 1:52 pm to OweO
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In the morning I watch CBS news when I am getting ready.
Genuinely curious, getting ready for what?
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:06 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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So if 1/3 of all cases are asymptomatic It means the CDC’s best guess is:
Infection fatality rate is 0.26% total
Isn't that pretty much exactly in line with that German study?
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:08 pm to Pettifogger
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But somewhere around .3-.5% has been a pretty common range discussed on this board and elsewhere since the early weeks of this.
This is such a dishonest statement for multiple reasons.
First, this estimate is below .3
Second, A TON of opinions were above .5.
Frankly, if you are trying to get the two consensus sides of the argument, .26 is on the crazy low side.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 2:38 pm to fallguy_1978
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This will go down as the biggest, most expensive overreaction in history.
Without a doubt. Anyone with a half functioning brain can see this is all a big nothingburger. Stats don't lie.
With each newscast release of doom and gloom, libtards would huddle together in a corner and jack each other off.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 5:25 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Thanks!
It’s clearer if you open up the chart in the CDC link and look at the 5th scenario. It’s the average of all of their possible scenarios.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 5:40 pm to Indfanfromcol
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The overreaction was so bad here, people will soon be put on blast. If some actual pandemic comes through in the not to distance future, politicians won’t do enough in fear of another COVID-19 over reaction.
This is my fear. They pull this shite every few years and it's always a big fricking nothing. They went all in on this one, and every reasonable doctor I know thought it was bullshite. Cry wolf too many times and no one will do shite when it's for real. This was a media driven pandemic. More people are dying from not receiving treatment for other ailments and delays in diagnosis due to this bullshite. And more will.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 5:44 pm to TDcline
In the beginning of this I saw Seth MacFarlane on the Bill Maher show. He explained the reaction to Corona with an analogy. If you had a bag of Skittles and knew that 1 out of 100 was poison you wouldn't eat any of the Skittles. Comparing consuming candy with people losing their homes, marriages, jobs - that's the level of thinking that went into this. Candy.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 5:57 pm to BiggerBear
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What person did that happen to?
I swear to you it was said... I think by a or some public officials that they were recording deaths as COVID19 deaths if someone died from something else, but are tested after they are dead and if they test positive it is recorded as a COVID19 death.
But I am searching and I am finding shite about how the numbers are possibly underreported.
I want to say they was a teenager in New Orleans who died from something else and it was being reported as a COVID19 death and his dad was either interviewed or requested to be interviewed and said that his son died from something unrelated to COVID19 and that as for as whether he test positive for it he didn't know.
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