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re: CDC releases new estimates of Coronavirus fatality rate
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:58 am to The Spleen
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:58 am to The Spleen
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Didn't take South Korea, Germany, Singapore, and other countries a decade to develop and implement.
are you serious? Dr Birx has said multiple multiple times that our testing capacity since early May has been the equivalent of you adding up the rest of the world's testing capacity and then doubling it. are you that stubborn or just that ignorant?
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Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:59 am to fallguy_1978
quote:As much as I don't like Trump I can't blame you there. The man will probably just be a puppet for the Democratic establishment anyway. They'll prop him during speeches Weekend at Bernies style
I'll vote for him again over the nursing home patient the Dems are going to roll out there
Posted on 5/22/20 at 10:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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How about we weaken the federal govt so narcissists have less control over yyou?
Sure. Let's start with weeding out the massive corruption on both sides.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:00 am to The Third Leg
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Lack of reliable data
This is why they had to rely on "an abundance of caution" as their excuse for taking drastic freedom restricting, business ruining measures.
It's a bullshite standard and a terrible precedent.
They don't have the right to do what they did simply out of caution and based on unreliable data.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:03 am to The Spleen
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Sure. Let's start with weeding out the massive corruption on both sides.
I no longer believe that's possible.
We would have to start public hangings for corrupt officials, but it would only work with rule by mob and that of course doesn't work at all.
What we need is a Catholic monarchy.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:05 am to uway
What we need is Maximus Decimus Meridius who will take power by military force and simply give it back to the people.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:09 am to uway
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This is why they had to rely on "an abundance of caution" as their excuse for taking drastic freedom restricting, business ruining measures.
It's a bullshite standard and a terrible precedent.
They don't have the right to do what they did simply out of caution and based on unreliable data.
And the drones chant:
"For the greater good."
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:17 am to uway
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I no longer believe that's possible.
It's not, because it would take admitting there are massive issues with our capitalist economy as it relates to our representative democracy. And no, that's not an argument for socialism.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:19 am to The Spleen
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It's not, because it would take admitting there are massive issues with our capitalist economy as it relates to our representative democracy. And no, that's not an argument for socialism.
That's the citizens' fault. Bummer. All of us a little bit responsible.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:23 am to WaWaWeeWa
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So if 1/3 of all cases are asymptomatic It means the CDC’s best guess is:
Infection fatality rate is 0.26% total
When people early on suggested it was more like a severe flu, can someone link me or tell me what the fatality rate is on one of our more recent severe flu seasons?
I know in general they say .1% for flu but that's no average, does anyone have any concrete numbers to show what that number is for a severe flu season?
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The new moral majority. Do gooders.
I believe it was CS Lewis that basically said the most insidious form of Tyranny is that which believes they know what is best for you and therefore have not merely the right but moral imperative to use any means necessary (including force.. ) to gain your compliance..
that is a paraphrase...
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:26 am to BRIllini07
it's interesting because if we assume a IFR of 0.26% that would mean 1,000,000 people (or almost 25%) of Louisiana has been infected to get to 2,600 deaths. The antibody studies aren't really anywhere near this.
Unless, there are a few possibilities:
1. The CDC has data that we don't have
2. The vulnerable populations have already been largely hit by the virus and the remaining possible infections are patients that will be less susceptible (I think this is the most likely). i.e. Coumo sending patients back to nursing homes. That will dramatically drive up the death count and make it look way worse than it is.
3. Our initial treatments were not good at all compared to what we are doing now
Unless, there are a few possibilities:
1. The CDC has data that we don't have
2. The vulnerable populations have already been largely hit by the virus and the remaining possible infections are patients that will be less susceptible (I think this is the most likely). i.e. Coumo sending patients back to nursing homes. That will dramatically drive up the death count and make it look way worse than it is.
3. Our initial treatments were not good at all compared to what we are doing now
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:27 am to Oilfieldbiology
That’s a mighty subjective thing don’t you think? Of course I think I’m right and you think you are right!
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:27 am to WaWaWeeWa
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The vulnerable populations have already been largely hit by the virus and the remaining possible infections are patients that will be less susceptible
Ding ding ding!
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:28 am to Oilfieldbiology
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What we need is Maximus Decimus Meridius who will take power by military force and simply give it back to the people.
Libertarian is the answer here, but everyone will tell you that you're crazy and it's a wasted vote.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:29 am to Senor Sandwich
Not subjective at all. Very early on some people called that the shutdowns would lead to massive unemployment not seen since the 1920’s and that they were overreactions.
Other disagreed. Who is looking more and more right?
Other disagreed. Who is looking more and more right?
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:30 am to The Spleen
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It's not, because it would take admitting there are massive issues with our capitalist economy as it relates to our representative democracy. And no, that's not an argument for socialism.
Distributism FTW
But none of that is possible.
Benevolent monarchy is possible. Kings have names and can be killed if they get out of line.
The people running us are unknown to us and untouchable.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:31 am to Scruffy
How did you know my profession?!?? Are you Nostradamus?
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:38 am to WaWaWeeWa
Tell me the fatality rate for under 18 and why are schools closed.
The fatailty rate for under 30 and why are college universities closed.
The fatailty rate for under 30 and why are college universities closed.
Posted on 5/22/20 at 11:39 am to shel311
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When people early on suggested it was more like a severe flu, can someone link me or tell me what the fatality rate is on one of our more recent severe flu seasons?
I know in general they say .1% for flu but that's no average, does anyone have any concrete numbers to show what that number is for a severe flu season?
Past severe flu seasons like Spanish, pandemics killed 0.5-1+% of the world, I doubt you’ll find anything near an accurate fatality rate from known infections from numbers old like that
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