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re: CDC admits risk for myocarditis in people under 25 could be over 200x the background rate

Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by LSU Tigershark
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:37 pm to
What is the rate of myocarditis with other vaccines?
Posted by BornCritic
Member since Nov 2020
696 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:38 pm to
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Stop it, you are gonna confuse the "science is dumb" crowd


You may indeed be dumb if you see that stat and think it's a gotcha to the OP.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:39 pm to
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Just someone that can easily look up data is all



Oh so just another poster that should be ignored on this subject
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:39 pm to
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But that's not what the stats linked by the CDC show for those under 25. That's the entire premise of the thread. Not sure why you are arguing for the entire population when that is not at all what I linked or even posted. You are ignoring the OP completely.



Myocarditis rates in pediatrics (under 18) is 2 per 100,000

Myocarditis rates for vaccinated individuals under 25 is 3 per 100,000

If if you add in the rate of myocarditis in general pop for ages 19-25 it would likely by the exact same
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:41 pm to
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You're being disingenuous in your crusade to get everyone vaccinated.


Is this your first time reading Pride’s TD posts? He is not remotely on a crusade to vaccinate people. I
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:50 pm to
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Unfortunately, the frickwad soybois who’ve been pushing lockdowns/masks/vaccines are too stupid to understand the data.
rich
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:05 pm to
Perhaps instead of just "You are the research" the meme should be changed to "You AND YOUR KIDS are the research"

This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted by wt9
Savannah, Ga
Member since Nov 2011
1123 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:23 pm to
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Both covid myocarditis and vaccine myocarditis should be looked at, but the numbers don’t come close to supporting the fear porn both sides tried/are trying to produce

I believe this sums it up.
CDC Vaccine data in op is 233 out of 4.3 million 18 to 24 males or 0.005%.
A study I found on myocarditis in covid positive Big 10 athletes was 9 out of 1597 or 0.56%.
msn Rutgers study
If you go on emotion, you can make a story on anything.

** I assumed the 233 were symptomatic otherwise they would have never known. Therefore 9 of the 37 athletes were symptomatic.
Will have to do more calculating to determine which way is higher risk. The vaccine group is defined, the covid group is not.

Both probably will end up matching what ever the general numbers are prior to covid.



Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:25 pm to
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You think I’m just now a stats guy? Stats are my life, my passion, and my livelihood

lulz

Says the guy that compared an gen pop data point to a <25 data point. That makes you a fraud in this case
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:27 pm to
I give zero fricks about the CDC and what they have to say, especially with that little Chinese dick in their mouth.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31530 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:28 pm to
Seems like still an extremely tiny number
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111496 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:30 pm to
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Says the guy that compared an gen pop data point to a <25 data point.
I didn’t do that though, soooooo


I compared the all ages general pop to the all ages pop of covid vaccine recipients

I then compared the under 18 general pop(only easy data to grab) with the under 25 covid vaccine population

The data shows rate of myocarditis is greatly lower in vaccine population as compared to general population for all ages

The data shows rate of myocarditis is nearly identical for under 25 population in both the vaccine group and general population group


So I guess the OP wanted you to know if you are over 30 you should get the vaccine because it may help protect you from myocarditis
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 8:35 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:34 pm to
For the male and female numbers did CDC side with feelings or go with science?
Posted by OhFace55
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:36 pm to
I posted this in another thread...

This happened to me. No previous heart conditions. 36 years old. Took the second dose on a Tuesday, ended up in the hospital on a Friday. Heart rate in the 160s. Troponin bumped to 2.8. This was early March.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47808 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:38 pm to
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Wonder why it’s just young people? Old people don’t seem to be having any obvious problems with the vaccine.




its almost like it follows testosterone production in males
Posted by dandyjohn
Member since Apr 2009
804 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:40 pm to
So the same people who said 500,000 (now 600k) dead wasn't enough to make you concerned are now tripping over a few hundred?

Man y'all dumb.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23159 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:54 pm to
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So the same people who said 500,000 (now 600k) dead wasn't enough to make you concerned are now tripping over a few hundred?



500k died w/ Covid not from Covid. Remember it’s an extremely contagious disease. Also the vast majority of the deaths were elderly folks. News flash, elderly folks die from respiratory diseases.

Covid attacked the low hanging fruit of the American public. Was it tragic? ABSOLUTELY! But the people we should be pissed at are the Chinese who unleashed this killer on the world.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 8:56 pm to
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Stop it, you are gonna confuse the "science is dumb" crowd

It’s so goddamn funny when leftists say stuff like this. Even after Faucis emails and all of the scientists admitting they lied about the lab outbreak theory for political reasons against Trump. You assclowns are truly lost.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:18 pm to
are we supposed to be concerned about the delta variant?...a lot of twitter chatter suggesting this is going to get bad in July

the less vaccinated states seem to be getting hit with cases
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 9:19 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:28 pm to
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You are flat out ignoring the stats and topic at hand published by the CDC.


the CDC published stats from ***VAERS reports***. Vaers also published a report that the flu shot turned them into the incredible hulk.
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