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re: CDC admits risk for myocarditis in people under 25 could be over 200x the background rate
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:17 pm to stout
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:17 pm to stout
Unfortunately, the frickwad soybois who’ve been pushing lockdowns/masks/vaccines are too stupid to understand the data.
They’ll downvote all evidence contrary to what reddit tells them
They’ll downvote all evidence contrary to what reddit tells them
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:17 pm to Jake88
Also, just for more fact checking
The rate of myocarditis post vaccination is 12.6 per million people
The rate of myocarditis in the general population is 15 cases per 100,000 people
Sooooooo, yehhhh
The rate of myocarditis post vaccination is 12.6 per million people
The rate of myocarditis in the general population is 15 cases per 100,000 people
Sooooooo, yehhhh
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:17 pm to Jake88
I agree that it's still pretty rare but do you think we should be forcing kids to get a vaccine that we don't have any long term data on? They have almost zero risk of having issues from Covid either.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:18 pm to lsupride87
That’s not what the CDC just published according to the OP
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:18 pm to Jake88
quote:
So a 0.005% chance of myocarditis. Not much of an issue.
Or 0.000000000000000000% without it
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:19 pm to lsupride87
quote:
fact checking
The rate of myocarditis post vaccination
The rate is 0% without it
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:19 pm to Auburn80
quote:
Old people don’t seem to be having any obvious problems with the vaccine.
Aneurisms, blood clots.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:20 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:The OP is simply lying to you. Straight from the CDC
That’s not what the CDC just published according to the OP
quote:
The agency said there have been 267 cases of myocarditis or pericarditis reported after receiving one dose of the mRNA vaccines and 827 reported cases after two doses through June 11. There are 132 additional cases where the number of doses received is unknown, the CDC said.
Roughly 300 million of the shots had been administered as of June 11, the agency said.
"This is still a rare event," Dr. Tom Shimabukuro said at the meeting. For both vaccines combined, there were 12.6 heart inflammation cases per million doses. The cases were more frequent among Moderna's vaccine recipients at 19.8 cases per million versus eight cases per million for Pfizer's, he said.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:21 pm to IceTiger
quote:Myocarditis in general population is .015%
The rate is 0% without it
Rate of myocarditis in vaccinated population is .000004%
Did you really think myocarditis didn’t exist before?
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:22 pm to Auburn80
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Wonder why it’s just young people? Old people don’t seem to be having any obvious problems with the vaccine.
We’re just built different
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:22 pm to lsupride87
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Myocarditis in general population is .015%
Rate of myocarditis in vaccinated population is .000004%
Did you really think myocarditis didn’t exist before?
Cool. This is for people under 25 like my OP stated and the linked CDC information confirms
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:23 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Did you really think myocarditis didn’t exist before
No you illiterate bastard...read in context.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:23 pm to stout
Good thing I made it out of my 20s… that could have been me.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:24 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:
I guess the big 10 can’t play football next year then.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:24 pm to stout
People will roll their eyes at this, because they are team vaccine, but doesn't it raise the question of HOW? How does a virus-less vaccine injected into the shoulder and staying in the shoulder cause heart problems? And how can anyone possibly be SURE there aren't other as yet unknown long term effects? Were we warned about this particular side effect?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:24 pm to stout
quote:Cool
Cool. This is for people under 25 like my OP stated and the linked CDC information confirms
1200 people total have gotten myocarditis out of 300,000,000
That’s a rate of 12.6 out of 1 million
The general population is 14 out of 100,000
So overall the covid vaccine helps prevent myocarditis
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:24 pm to stout
Wasn’t myocarditis the main risk for young people who got Covid?
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:25 pm to BornCritic
quote:Its actually a very simply answer. Inflammatory responses cause myocarditis, and vaccines cause inflammatory responses
People will roll their eyes at this, because they are team vaccine, but doesn't it raise the question of HOW? How does a virus-less vaccine injected into the shoulder and staying in the shoulder cause heart problems?
It’s actually that simple
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:25 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Myocarditis in general population is .015%
Rate of myocarditis in vaccinated population is .000004%
I don't have any reason to dispute your numbers but do the benefits of a young person or kid getting the vaccine outweigh the risks? My argument is that we don't really know yet. But we do know that they have an extremely low risk from Covid. I'm not planning on getting my 14 yr old vaccinated.
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