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re: Bricks and Minifigs (Lego reseller), scammed a family out of $200k in legos

Posted on 6/3/26 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 2:45 pm to
If anything is close to being RICO worthy its the fact the store owner. Corporate CEO, Cops, Prosecutor, and Judge all seem to be working below board just to protect a scumbag trying to extract money out of customers through nefarious means.
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 2:53 pm to
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this is actually a good take. the issue is of course the doubling down, then doubling down on the double down, then again and again…each time thinking it would make it go away but instead digging the whole deeper

Oh yeah, agree 100%.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 3:12 pm to
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If anything is close to being RICO worthy its the fact the store owner. Corporate CEO, Cops, Prosecutor, and Judge all seem to be working below board just to protect a scumbag trying to extract money out of customers through nefarious means.


That would be criminal RICO

BAM is suing Ben and the son of the Lego owner, along with people working with/for Ben, with civil RICO
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:21 pm to
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That would be criminal RICO

BAM is suing Ben and the son of the Lego owner, along with people working with/for Ben, with civil RICO



I am aware.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:25 pm to
Saw this in another thread:

The CEO and the two new franchise owners all used to work at a company called LegallyMine. The company was owned by the CEO's dad, and the CEO's brother is the COO of that company.

The company's entire schtick was stealing stuff from people and using loopholes in the legal system to keep it.

This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 5:28 pm
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 5:36 pm to
Wonderful upstanding community they have.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 7:24 pm to
Daniel McNeff was/is the CEO of LegallyMine but it looks like his son and BAM CEO Ammon McNeff sued his dad at some point





$50 to see the files. I am sure someone on the internet would pay to see the files. I am not that motivated to but am curious


McNeff et al v. McNeff et al


This is from the google search I saw it from and it says something about the dad being ousted








I asked ChatGPT to find what it could be


quote:

Case snapshot

McNeff et al v. McNeff et al was a short-lived federal civil case in the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah, case 2:21-cv-00048. It was filed January 22, 2021 and terminated February 11, 2021, with Magistrate Judge Daphne A. Oberg assigned. The docket classifies it as Nature of Suit 790: Labor – Other Labor Litigation, with federal-question jurisdiction under 28 U.S.C. § 1331.

Parties

Plaintiffs:

Ammon McNeff and Matthew McNeff.

Defendants:
Daniel McNeff, Lindsey Thompson, Dave Gibb, Tom Seiler, Seiler Anderson Fife and Marshall, Martin Evans, Kathleen Evans, and Taxpro Tax and Accounting. Justia and PACERMonitor list the same core parties.

Plaintiffs were represented by Cameron Steven Christensen and Steven R. Sumsion.

Docket timeline

The case moved very quickly:

Date Event
Jan. 22, 2021 Complaint filed by Ammon McNeff and Matthew McNeff against all defendants; filing fee was $402. The complaint included a civil cover sheet and Exhibits A–F.
Jan. 25, 2021 Court issued an “Order to Propose Schedule.” Summonses were issued electronically to several defendants.
Feb. 10, 2021 Plaintiffs filed a Notice of Voluntary Dismissal.
Feb. 11, 2021 Civil case terminated per that notice.
What the case appears to have been about

The full complaint and exhibits are not freely visible through PACERMonitor without access/trial login, but search-index snippets from the complaint/exhibits show enough to infer the dispute’s general subject.

The complaint’s Exhibit A is indexed as an arbitration proceeding captioned Ammon McNeff and Matthew McNeff v. Daniel McNeff. A PACERMonitor snippet for that exhibit says: “Daniel McNeff is hereby expelled as manager of Legally Mine effective immediately” and “permanently enjoined from serving as Legally…”—strong evidence that the underlying dispute involved control/management of Legally Mine.

So, the best-supported summary is: this was a federal lawsuit by Ammon and Matthew McNeff against Daniel McNeff and related individuals/entities, apparently tied to a prior arbitration and management/control dispute involving Legally Mine. The federal case itself did not reach a substantive merits ruling; it ended by plaintiffs’ voluntary dismissal less than three weeks after filing.


Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 7:47 pm to
Someone leaked some of the redacted bodycam footage of Joshua Johnson





More on their channel link
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:25 pm to
I agree with the cause Ben is pursuing. . .But it appears Ben is guilty of vandalism, stalking, and harassment right?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104276 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:32 pm to
The Reddit community has been tearing these apart and finding all kinds of nuggets in there.


One is that the cop technically served Josh with the papers and then did what they could to tell Ben he couldn’t serve him.

Another is that the AirBnB owner was buddies with one of the cops.

A third is that Josh is on tape basically admitting he knew about the consignment agreement and claiming he wasn’t beholden to it because he didn’t sign it, despite taking over ownership of the store.



There’s about 10 videos worth of stuff for Ben to run with from this.
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:56 pm to
So here is the conclusion that I have come to.

BAM Corporate pushes franchisees into default and then takes control of their stores.

I believe this is the major corporate scam at play. They’re using their associates Josh and the other owner to purchase the stores that go into default. They control numerous stores (likely by seizing them in the same way they did with Chrystal’s). It’s essentially a large-scale method to rip off people who invest in BaM. This is the truth they’re trying to hide and cover up. They don’t want this story to gain traction and did everything they could to suppress it. It didn’t work, and the entire operation is going to collapse. This ties into the practices of that Legally Mine business that Ammon was a president of.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:01 pm to
Just for the record, I binge watch that shite for like four hours today
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:33 pm to
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This police department got completely blindsided by how big this got. Everything now is just them trying justify their retarded officers blatantly harassing this YouTuber.


The dumbasses responded too many times.

Then upped it with a 3 hour drug search.

Then upped that with a full swat raid of his Airbnb.

Insane stupidity.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 10:53 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35898 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 10:58 pm to
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BAM Corporate pushes franchisees into default and then takes control of their stores.

I believe this is the major corporate scam at play. They’re using their associates Josh and the other owner to purchase the stores that go into default. They control numerous stores (likely by seizing them in the same way they did with Chrystal’s). It’s essentially a large-scale method to rip off people who invest in BaM. This is the truth they’re trying to hide and cover up. They don’t want this story to gain traction and did everything they could to suppress it. It didn’t work, and the entire operation is going to collapse. This ties into the practices of that Legally Mine business that Ammon was a president of.



It will be hilarious if the entire company collapses and higher-ups face some kind of repercussions for any illegal actions that come to light because of their refusal to pay $100,000.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38542 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

I'm not LDS, but a high percentage of my neighbors are. All of my neighbors are great and I've never felt like an outsider because of where my family goes to church vs where their family goes to church.


Can you have them watch and review the South Park Mormon episode?

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7745 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

I believe this is the major corporate scam at play. They’re using their associates Josh and the other owner to purchase the stores that go into default. They control numerous stores (likely by seizing them in the same way they did with Chrystal’s). It’s essentially a large-scale method to rip off people who invest in BaM. This is the truth they’re trying to hide and cover up. They don’t want this story to gain traction and did everything they could to suppress it. It didn’t work, and the entire operation is going to collapse. This ties into the practices of that Legally Mine business that Ammon was a president of.
If this is true, it would be interesting if someone filed a class action against BaM and conducted discovery on the fate of all BaM franchises from the date it was founded.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35898 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:04 am to
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this is true, it would be interesting if someone filed a class action against BaM and conducted discovery on the fate of all BaM franchises from the date it was founded.



Besides being subject to potential civil penalties, would that type of corporate practice be illegal?


I want to know what kind of white collar criminal activity could be happening.





I consider white collar crime to be more serious than normal crime outside of murder. A burglar is limited to only being able to steal an amount that is an annoyance at best. It's not life destroying.

White collar criminals ruin lives through their crimes. And the victims will never get restitution.
Posted by keks tadpole
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 5:22 am to
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Besides being subject to potential civil penalties, would that type of corporate practice be illegal?

Not if there is a trap in the franchise agreement.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:15 am to
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because of their refusal to pay $100,000.


Do they really even have to pay that much? I’m under the impression it’s a few thousand dollars of unpaid, already sold merchandise and the rest is just giving the guy back his stuff.

And everything I’ve watched and read I have not seen one person ever say to corporate or the franchisee, what makes you all think you own this stuff?

Like that, pisses me off so much.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17468 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 10:35 am to
can i get some cliffnotes on how it was "stolen"?
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