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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:17 pm to
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Then what are they?


Jfc your constituents have repeatedly said itt they are law enforcement. Not police officers. There is a difference
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:19 pm to
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Not police officers.


What do police officers do?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19863 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:24 pm to
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like the woman who was assualted was doing?



The one that was walking directly at the agent before being shoved back? Like I said, attempting to physically confront law enforcement is not protected under the 1A.

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so, in your opinion, would this threshold, as you explain it here in your own words, apply to Jan. 6th?



The people who were simply present, did not destroy or deface property, did not confront law enforcement. People who were also charged for simply being there or in the vicinity. You might really want to think about the nuances here, your "gotchas" fall appart pretty quickly otherwise.


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at the time of the confrontation, he was "stayed put" until he comes to the defense of the woman who was assaulted... a normal response for most guys, me included...


The video shows he stepped up and put his hands on the agent who, at that point had legally and correctly moved thst woman from being confrontational. At that instant, he fricked up and so would you in the same circumstance. Most rational, well educated guys would know not to do that but maybe you just weren't raised that well.


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so, if a woman hits you, you are hitting them back?


Yes. Same as if they had a weapon, I'm drawing and shooting same as I would anyone else. Women don't get a pass for being violently offensive. I bet you're the type of trash that thinks men are never victims of domestic violence too.

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again, if you watch that video, and you think Pretti is the agitator, once that woman is shoved, then you aren't being honest... the man was maced immediately after positioning himself between the woman and the person who pushed her


I've watched the video multiple times. First the women attempted to confront the agent that then shoved her back. He had every right to do that as she was attempting to interfere. Most rational people look at the totality of the events, not just a few chosen seconds. Suggest you go find more video to watch since you don't seem to be aware of key facts.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
7042 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:26 pm to
They can investigate all they want. The SCOTUS has long ruled. And even expanded the protections.

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Is there evidence that ICE is acting legally. IF you believe that they are shooting legitimate protesters when they are not threatened, then you might think so.


Performing duty to exercise warrants for arrests? Yes they are.

The leadership created and environment that is dangerous and agents are being injured. If it continues, more people are going to die due to this. Even the Chicago PD chief understands this:

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We cannot become a society where we just decide to take everything in our own hands and start to commit crimes against law enforcement! It is a crime. You may not like what they’re doing. I can understand that there’s a lot of emotions out there, but that does NOT mean that you get to commit a crime, especially one that could lead to deadly force. We need to keep everyone safe. Our responsibilities when it comes to federal agents, and I’ve been asked these questions, we do not interfere with the duties and responsibilities of federal agents.


This isn't hard.

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This latest one looks very questionable.



But it's not. Read the SCOTUS rulings. It's not even really debatable in the environment that has been created by the leaders in MN
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:27 pm to
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, you better get to work.


Lol you think i support blm.

Keep reaching lol
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45350 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:28 pm to
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I think the State government has the right to prevent and investigate criminal behavior by federal officers.

Article VI, Clause 2 does not address that.


They don't, Supreme Court ruled in 1890 that it violates the Supremacy Clause.

A federal Marshall shot and killed a former California Chief Justice on a train, court ruled California could not charge him since he was performing his federal duties at the time.
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2612 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:35 pm to
The same people who told us cops were indiscriminately killing black people in the streets are back in this thread telling us this choir boy was executed for doing nothing but coming to the aid of a damsel in distress.

Do y’all ever get tired of being simpletons?
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
5206 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:41 pm to
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They don't, Supreme Court ruled in 1890 that it violates the Supremacy Clause. A federal Marshall shot and killed a former California Chief Justice on a train, court ruled California could not charge him since he was performing his federal duties at the time.


That’s a bit of an oversimplification. A federal court would look to see if the act was both 1) within the scope of their official duties AND 2) a reasonable act under the circumstances. A no to either and a federal officer can be charged with a state crime
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13455 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:43 pm to
Sorry fake tweet
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 2:58 pm
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19436 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:46 pm to
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"Only criminals carry guns in our streets" -donnie Uh oh 2a bros


Gotta love the right being afraid of scary concealed weapons all of the sudden
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:47 pm to
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whatiknowsofar


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your government


Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:47 pm to
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How to take a popular issue and absolutely nuke support for it, by the morons currently in charge

Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9470 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:51 pm to
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I've watched the video multiple times.

Is there something wrong with your vision? Woman got shoved down for blowing a whistle. Dude got shot after they removed his gun. Straight up murder. But of course they were Dems, so that is A-OK with you. Did the dude have the right to carry a firearm?
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30469 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:54 pm to
Not responding to you specifically, just the thread.

It’s amazing how much things have changed in a year. The opinion of this board was all about “winning” and cleaning house, and it’s slowly flipping. The posts and upvote/downvote ratios say a lot. I’m not saying it’s good or bad, just an observation.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
19552 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:54 pm to
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Maybe don’t get maced in the face in the first place.

Damn, I didn’t think about it like that.
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2612 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:55 pm to
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Only criminals carry guns in our streets" -donnie Uh oh 2a bros


“I dream about sucking Donnie’s MAGA dong” — whatiknowsofar

See, that one is just as real as yours.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26631 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:55 pm to
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Woman got shoved down for blowing a whistle


What's wrong with this part? These idiots are loudly blowing rape whistles to intentionally damage the hearing of ICE officers.

Rape whistle have a range of dB from 120 to 150, enough to cause permanent hearing loss. No sympathy for her at all.

Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:58 pm to
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that one is just as real as yours.


My bad that was a fake post

I guess I'll just have to settle for Donnies camp calling an icu nurse a domestic terrorist.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
20503 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:58 pm to
Well, he was, so I guess you will.. Glad you've accepted that.
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