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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:59 pm to
Is "your government" in the room with us right now?
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9470 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 2:59 pm to
Lick that boot boy! It’s tasty!

Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:00 pm to
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Lick that boot boy! It’s tasty!


You sound boosted.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13455 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:01 pm to
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It’s amazing how much things have changed in a year. The opinion of this board was all about “winning” and cleaning house, and it’s slowly flipping. The posts and upvote/downvote ratios say a lot. I’m not saying it’s good or bad, just an observation.


In what way?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19863 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:02 pm to
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Woman got shoved down for blowing a whistle.


If you watch the full videos, she steps off the curb, walks completely to the other end of the vehicle and marches right up behind the agent who then turns around to push her back. She continued to confront him until he had pushed her right back to where she started. At that point Pretti and another protester intervene, the other protester backs off but Pretti doesn't and that's when the detainment starts after he pushed into an agent.

As for his right? If he was carrying without a permit which is against the law in Minnesota, then no, he did not have a right in that instant. Minnesota is not a constitutional carry state. I know you Dems are grossly uneducated when it comes to firearms laws in the US, don't try to be 2A scholars now, you simply don't have the intelligence, honesty, or education to engage in this subject...
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
2638 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:03 pm to
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But again, acting like someone yelled "gun" and then LEO shooting this dude in pure isolation is what happened is not accurate.


Totality of circumstances:

Was he acting aggressive?
Was he attacking, even in supposed defense?
Was he making threats?

If the answer is yes to those questions then the gun becomes a catalyst, even if not directly used.

If the answer is no then the gun is a constitutionally protected item.

I don't think we will ever get enough details to answer those questions, but I think a court will and letting 12 people make the decision based on those facts is the system we have. I am content to let it play out.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30469 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:07 pm to
I remember the last two election nights were VERY pro Trump and the admin on here. The robbery in 2020 was vindicated in 2024. The pulse was that we needed to fix the mess at all costs.

Minneapolis was almost universally made fun of and disliked dating back to Covid and St George.

This thread has demonstrated a bit of a shift. Lots of the same folks that wanted to sweep up the mess are siding with the deceased here and some suggesting we need to leave MN alone.

Again, I’m not taking sides, just observing.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40378 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:08 pm to
That dude will never see the inside of a courtroom

This regime has already branded the victim a domestic terrorist, a would be assassin, and someone who wanted to massacre people causing maximum damage. (All quotes)

They’ll protect those lies to the utmost of their authority and snuff this investigation out.


It should piss every real American off.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 3:08 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:10 pm to
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Well, he was, so I guess you will.. Glad you've accepted that.


Found another boot licker
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13455 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:12 pm to
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Again, I’m not taking sides, just observing.


I appreciate it. I was genuinely curious. You’re an old school poster like myself. Was much more fun on TD when politics was boring and the topic of the day was the police blotter at The Varsity.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:13 pm to
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he was carrying without a permit which is against the law in Minnesota, then no, he did not have a right in that instant. Minnesota is not a constitutional carry state


He is licensed and permitted to carry.

quote:

know you Dems are grossly uneducated when it comes to firearms laws in the US, don't try to be 2A scholars now, you simply don't have the intelligence, honesty, or education to engage in this subject


Oof. Bad look bro
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:14 pm to
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we need to leave MN alone.


We do. Let Minneapolis burn. I want the voters there to suffer.

It's the only way they may possibly learn. Right now everything under the sun Walz and Frey are doing will be excused because of Trump.

He should pull everyone out, cut off all federal funding, and leave the voters to their own devices.

They voted for the sewage, let them drown in it.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30469 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:15 pm to
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You’re an old school poster like myself. Was much more fun on TD when politics was boring and the topic of the day was the police blotter at The Varsity.


I’m closing in on 40. I keep up, and sometimes get caught up on here. At the end of the day, I just need to control my own bubble and if anything, get involved in my own community.

Some would say I’m sticking my head in the sand. I have a reliable job and a kid, so I’m not going to protest in the streets and fight the power these days.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:17 pm to
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He is licensed and permitted to carry.


Correct. However he had no permit on him (or even photo ID), which under Minnesota state law is illegal. fricking stupid law, but there it is.

Try to read better.

You'd probably know this if you understood "your government" better.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10915 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:18 pm to
Seeing more of why Walz’s own family didn’t support him to be the VP

law professor Jonathan on Walz:
quote:

Gov. Walz is again inflaming the mob. He is effectively declaring this to be the murder of a citizen who had a permit to carry this weapon. He is saying that the state not the federal government will control the investigation. He does not have that authority.

The state can clearly have a parallel investigation and the federal government can do a joint investigation. However, he cannot dictate how or who will conduct the investigation.

With thousands in the streets, Walz just did all that he could to give them license for their rage. Most of us would never call this a lawful or unlawful shooting based on one videotape.

Walz calling for his own investigation is a bit odd when he is actively engaged in his version of Red Queen justice of a "sentence first -- verdict afterwards.

Walz just said "quit referring to these people as law enforcement." That is a new low from the governor. These are law enforcement officers who put their lives on the line every day. To say that they are not law enforcement is to further enable the rage.

Walz just said we are being "shot in the face coming out of donut shops." This is not a presser, it is a rage fest by Walz.

Bob Jacobson just admitted that they had to leave the crime scene because they did not have enough personnel to control the area. That is quite an admission after the Governor said that he had all of the personnel he needed to keep the peace. They could not even hold a crime scene without retreating.

Walz is blaming the feds for creating "chaos" and then leaving the scene. It ignores the lack of coordination and assistance from the state in these operations.

Walz is saying that they are "slandering this individual" and saying that the federal government "does not want you to trust your eyes and ears." In other words, he is conveying, again, that the facts are clear from the video.
https://x.com/jonathanturley/status/2015147038246162735?s=46

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Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13455 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:18 pm to
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However he had no permit on him (or even photo ID), which under Minnesota state law is illegal. fricking stupid law, but there it is.


“In retrospect, after we executed the noncombatant, we discovered he was in violation of not carrying his permit, and so therefore, we are clear of any wrongdoing.”
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9470 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:20 pm to
When you’re kitted up like you’re about to go door to door in Fallujah, a whistle is the only thing that can do any real damage. It can even get thru that plate armor.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:20 pm to
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“In retrospect, after we executed the noncombatant, we discovered he was in violation of not carrying his permit, and so therefore, we are clear of any wrongdoing.”


Except I never said that?

I'm simply pointing out that Pretti was not, in fact, carrying legally under Minnesota state law contrary to what the dipshit asserted.



Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24364 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:20 pm to
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I remember the last two election nights were VERY pro Trump and the admin on here. The robbery in 2020 was vindicated in 2024. The pulse was that we needed to fix the mess at all costs.


Because most people here are pro America. This officer involved shooting has questions, so most are waiting on the sideline to let it play out. It’s really that simple.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13455 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 3:21 pm to
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Except I never said that?

I'm simply pointing out that Pretti was not, in fact, carrying legally under Minnesota state law contrary to what the dipshit asserted.


Which is literally a petty misdemeanor with a max fine of $25.
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