re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

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He doesn’t look brown to me? Neither was the other.

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This.

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TheePalmetto

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Pathetic troll boy

Well, you have an "Attorney" in this thread and he loves to play on words. But he knows as well as I do that the fault is in what the leadership of the state of MN is doing.

So I am going to lay it out step by step for you.

- Walz called for people to take to the streets.
- His campaign strategist begins organizing via Signal.
- The LT Gov becomes an Admin for this Signal group.
- A state Sen gives details on locations and tactics of ICE
- Another Dem creates a data base to DOX ICE.

As a reporter noted, this is massively organized.

- The resistance begins training people to confront ICE
- They begin attacking ICE
- They start impeding their movements.
- AND WALZ continues to advocate for more.

- ANTIFA "General" of Mn calls on people to shot ICE after.....
- AG states that people can shoot ICE under "stand your Ground" laws.

- The misson begins to go after ICE (btw.. it's all documented).
- Lady runs over ICE agent causing 36 stitches.
- Lady runs over ICE causing internal bleeding and she is shot and died.

- WALZ goes public again calling for more of it. States ICE is not LEO.

- Attacks increase on ICE.
- Mn PD is over ran and retreats. Walz blames ICE.

- Guy shows up to a LEO enforcement by USING Signal. He directs traffic and is involved.
- He approaches ICE/BP.
- Guy attempts to intervene in a situation and is taken down to the ground.
- Video proves that an agent yells GUN GUN... a shot goes off, a brief pause and then more shots fired.

First and foremost, laws prohibit the behavior of the Gov and the people on the streets. You do not have the right to impede or remotely obstruct LEO enforcement. PERIOD.

More so, the SCOTUS has long ruled.

There will be people arrested for organizing this and creating an environment like this.

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TheePalmetto

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Little man

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Centinel

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Go ahead, get all the weak talking points out bro. A dude gets murdered and you're airing reruns

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Go ahead, get all the weak talking points out bro

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These aren't cops dumbass.

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First and foremost, laws prohibit the behavior of the Gov and the people on the streets. You do not have the right to impede or remotely obstruct LEO enforcement. PERIOD.

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I think the State government has the right to prevent and investigate criminal behavior by federal officers.

Article VI, Clause 2 does not address that.

I am NOT saying that the State government of MN has acted appropriately. Some of the comments seem over the line for me. I do not think it is legal to urge others to impede legitimate law enforcement.

And there is the rub. Is there evidence that ICE is acting legally. IF you believe that they are shooting legitimate protesters when they are not threatened, then you might think so.

I thought the Good shooting was close enough to be justified.

This latest one looks very questionable.

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Lol you think ice are cops.

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Then what are they? I'm eagerly awaiting your nuanced and factual definition.

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The problem with this situation is that the agent that escalated the situation isn’t the one who pulled the trigger (I don’t think).

So you are stuck having to apply reasonability standard on the shooting officer based on what he knew and perceived at the time.

So in the example given, if Officer Chud is beating his wife, you intercede and tackle him to the ground, and then another officer comes upon the scene and sees you wrestling with the officer (without knowing the context), the second officers actions are judged by what perceived an reasonably believed at time.

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Well that's the rub, isn't it? If an officer can unlawfully create a situation that causes others to "perceive" a threat and the person who intervened is killed, what's the charge? Do you hit the instigating officer with felony murder? Assault? Nothing? It seems like a massive oversight if one officer can theoretically walk around assaulting people and if you fight back, his backup can shoot you dead.