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re: Black preschoolers still disciplined at far higher rates than Whites

Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:14 pm to
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one of her students(also black),and the kid told her”F- - k you old b——-h,you ain’t my mama”.
At lunch she went and turned in her retirement papers.


Damn!
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38801 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:16 pm to
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I told her to show it then, she said no, so i laughed in her face. Suspended me for 3 fricking days. ive never lit a fricking match at school.


That's infuriating
Posted by LightMerchant
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:16 pm to
A rebuttal there is that the “systemic racism” produced the dysfunctional culture.

But how do we explain the high rates of violence and poverty in majority-black nations where the system is controlled by blacks and populated by blacks?

The top 35 nations for per capita intentional homicide are all majority “color”, none are majority white. 21 of the 35 are majority black nations.

Here the explanation from apologists becomes “colonialism”. The dysfunction and high murder rate in majority black nations is all due to “colonialism”, whites to blame for every bad act by people of color and to blame for any and all dysfunction among people of color, wherever they are in the world.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:18 pm to
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That's infuriating


Its all because another teacher said she smelled something and they said I passed something to another student. It was a bag of fricking rubber bands for braces, i even tried to show the AP. She wasnt having it.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8586 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:22 pm to
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If they would stop misbehaving disproportionately, then they would stop being disciplined disproportionally.

Facts are racist, baw
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:27 pm to
I hate to be captain obvious here, but it apparently has to be said these days. The absolute ONLY thing that separates the behavior of kids in a very general sense in life is in the manner in which they are raised, and are the parentS engaged or not. I think anyone with an ounce of honesty left in them can admit to that, but alas, some cannot out of pure unadulterated cowardice because what others think of them is more important to them than the actual future of these kids and this country, instead choosing to apply nonsense to a very simple problem that can be corrected over time if accountability is ever applied.

That’s it. Period. But until people want to actually have real talks about this and at least admit where the problem comes from, there is absolutely no hope whatsoever of ever fixing the problem. We’re doomed. Same goes for applying the magic race card to things that are simply behavioral issues. Nobody is served from this kind of silliness.

It’s like playing a game of chew the bark off the tree. Nobody wins. We all lose our teeth in the process.







Posted by Glorious
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:32 pm to
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Black boys make up 18 percent of the male preschool enrollment, but 41 percent of male preschool suspensions, and Black girls make up 19 percent of female preschool enrollment, but account for an astounding 53 percent of female suspensions.



That is pretty glaring. All preschoolers are unruly little shits. For the argument that black kids are misbehaving more to work, the kids would have to either be more likely to do something way over the line, or they are more likely to be repeat offenders that flat out dont listen. Still those numbers are kinda staggering


Another factor might be that the administrators at predominately black preschools, who are more likely to be black themselves, tend to have a quicker trigger.
Posted by lowhound
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:37 pm to
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Even in our bitterly divided nation, surely we can agree that children fresh out of diapers shouldn’t be kicked out of school, especially because of the color of their skin.


Did the research ever considered that the kids were being disciplined strictly for bad behavior instead of their color. Maybe its not a racial issue but a parenting issue. Little lowhound has been to the priciple's office many times, and suspended in elementary school a few times too. It was never because he was white, but because he decided to put his hands on someone. Thank goodness for COVID homeschooling, or his school file would need those big rubber bands around it to keep it together. If schools would bring back recess, there wouldn't be near as much bad behavior in the classroom.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5639 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:46 pm to
Less “implicit biases” and more instability at home and uninvolved parenting in their children’s education and discipline.

If behavior is consistently a problem and not just a one and done zero tolerance type of over reaction (including inability to get parents involved before it gets to suspension) the white kids suspended will likely have similar situations with parenting issues as the black kids suspended. The white and black kids who never get in trouble more than likely don’t have those parenting issues. It’s just more likely non-black races in US are more involved with education including disciplinary issues and education activities in general and stuff like PTA at the schools. Parenting and culture are causes not racism.

Why do many black majority schools and districts created when whites have left go bad? You would think with all the “white supremacy” and “institutional racism” these schools & districts would become successful immediately due to white flight. When they start going downhill they will still blame racism and white flight for their problems.

Politics of the left - If blacks have issues in integrated but majority white areas blame inherent racism instead pushing personal responsibility. If blacks have issues in majority black areas blame racism of white flight for leaving blacks on their own instead of again pushing personal responsibility.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 10:30 pm
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:47 pm to
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Bad preschoolers still disciplined at far higher rates than good ones
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19575 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:51 pm to
There is scientific evidence that supports unpopular explanations for the differences in races and behaviors. A lot of this research has been shunned and hidden but it's out there.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:51 pm to
It starts at home
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24940 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:53 pm to
At some point you have to wonder if they are just genetically predisposed to violence...

If not then an entire segment of society has failed miserably at life through no fault but their own.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6271 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:54 pm to
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Black parents send their kids to school for discipline


Not always. However, that discipline often comes in disproportional amounts. It's either 0 or 100. Discipline may mean to them threatening to beat their arse and starve them.

Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13149 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:55 pm to
Due to liberal progressive social engineering via the welfare state aka socialism. Kids brought in a poor single parent home without a responsible father figure will not be prepared to behave in school.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:56 pm to
what is the rate of preschoolers from single parent homes, I'll wager the discipline rate for fatherless homes for both races are pretty dog gone equal
Posted by chadau79
Daphne, AL
Member since Sep 2009
3412 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:57 pm to
Home training
Posted by massilsu
Oz
Member since Sep 2020
1947 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:00 pm to
its because the black kids are just more vocal . white kids are silent except for the occasional hyper active hillbilly kid in the class so yes this is a systemic problem
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:02 pm to
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Being suspended from preschool is a thing?


Apparently there are all sorts of weird ways for teachers to not do their jobs now. Cops in schools, in-school suspensions, administrative tribunals... frickin' wimpy, degenerate crap.

Back when I was in school, if you got on the wrong side of Bro. Alfred Baltz, well, he was perfectly capable of embarrassing you into conformity without whining at some second-rate flunky cop.
Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5318 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:02 pm to
Lack of parental discipline will cause this.
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