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re: Being a teacher is tougher than any other job in the world

Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:07 pm to
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Dude are you reading these threads? Pecker would open a teacher concentration camp with gas chambers if he could.


, Pecker notwithstanding, I think most people just get tired of any group bitching about their job.

O&G folks get ridiculed on here when they do it. Teachers get the same criticism. No profession is really immune from that here.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:07 pm to
Why learn when I can google the answer
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:07 pm to
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You also hedged your bet by saying you can simultaneously know and not know how hard it is.




That's not hedging a bet. It's acknowledging that you can think something is difficult and even then be surprised at how difficult it actually is when you experience it.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5923 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Firefighters and engineers earned, on average, $134,400. Average pay for police lieutenants across the state was $161,400; for fire captains, it was $153,300. Excluding overtime, vacation payouts and bonuses, average pay for police officers in 2014 was $85,400 and for firefighters was $84,600.Oct 12, 2016



Granted i skimmed through the comments but i did not see this addressed. Are we not going to comment on this horseshite of lies?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:08 pm to
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Why learn when I can google the answer



Is that not the same exact thing? Why does it matter where you source the information from?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89388 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:08 pm to
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No profession is really immune from that here.


Plumbers, baw.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:09 pm to
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He's misrepresenting what was actually said.


I tend to agree with you about parenthood and know really understanding it - good or bad - unless you experience it.

However, I've got no clue what you're arguing. Pecker just said mothers as a whole are perhaps more delusional than teachers. He clarified later what group of mothers he was referencing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89388 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:10 pm to
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. Pecker just said mothers as a whole are perhaps more delusional than teachers. He clarified later what group of mothers he was referencing.


Well, I couldn't respond to his future posts at the time, now could I?

And let's not pretend like Peck doesn't have a post history
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:11 pm to
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“I wake up every day at 5am and stay at work until 6.30pm, and then I have homework on top of that. I get around five or six hours of sleep a night.” – Jessica Garman, an elementary school teacher in Washington state 
No on questioned her on this blatant lie?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:12 pm to
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Granted i skimmed through the comments but i did not see this addressed. Are we not going to comment on this horseshite of lies?


Yeah that comment is bogus. Anytime someone uses average pay while discussing a job is a red flag.

Median pay for firefighters was $49k in 2017.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:12 pm to
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Pull students who care about learning and interview them about their teachers if you want a truer picture of teacher quality.


Ladies and gentlemen: the magical unicorn.

I think that statement is spot on.

Not a teacher, but I work in Leadership with direct reports. In each of the last 3 jobs I've taken, the departments were a mess, no real accountability. Came in, held folks accountable, got really low employee satisfaction scores in the 1st couple of months. In each role, I weeded out the shitty employees by firing them or getting them to quit because they knew they'd have to actually work, and by the end of year 1, I'd have really high employee satisfaction scores coinciding with once I got all the bad apples out.

If I want to know how the leaders who report to me are performing, I'd go to my best folks at the team member level and ask, I certainly wouldn't ask the shitty team members.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78016 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:13 pm to
Well, Scruffy also works with kids, has to deal with their parents daily, and can get sued to oblivion and back if he makes a mistake.

Oh, and his hours are about the same without the summers off.

Oh, and the stress level is higher.

Scruffy’s job is no where near the hardest there is, but teachers are delusional as frick.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60134 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:13 pm to
All of this is true. Teaching is extremely difficult. The worst part is they want us to start back 2 weeks from now!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:14 pm to
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Well, I couldn't respond to his future posts at the time, now could I?


Yeah but that happened like 6 pages ago.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89388 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Yeah but that happened like 6 pages ago.




Take it up with TH and Mingo.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11582 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:15 pm to
The grass is always greener. Many, if not most jobs, are similar in difficulty, made easier by a natural inclination to the work or developed skill for it. Teaching has its difficulties, and it has its advantages.

In the meantime, I understand that the law profession has the highest rate of dependency development, so suck it up, buttercups--being a lawyer is the hardest profession based on dependency on stress relief.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60134 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:17 pm to
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It is a very tough job in East Baton Rouge

This. They had people with better gpa’s then me but they said they hired me on because I put “bouncer at Reggie’s” on my work experience
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
7442 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:18 pm to
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“I wake up every day at 5am and stay at work until 6.30pm, and then I have homework on top of that. I get around five or six hours of sleep a night.” – Jessica Garman, an elementary school teacher in Washington state 



My mom was a 3rd grade teacher and she rolled out 30 minutes after the bell erry day. And I never saw her do "homework" - you put on a movie or give them busy work and handle that paperwork girl.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112580 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:19 pm to
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You suggested that I'd need kids of my own to know what it's like. Which is preposterous.
No it isnt


One will not understand the stress of a parent until they are one. That is common sense really


That isnt saying there are not other situations in life that has more stress, it just highlights the unique stress parenting involves


I would also say one cant understand the stress in a life or death situation unless in one


Or the stress of being a high level athlete unless they have been one



That all seems like common sense and not really a lnch type opinion
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:20 pm to
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That all seems like common sense and not really a lnch type opinion



Those are the only kinds of opinions I have.
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