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re: Being a teacher is tougher than any other job in the world

Posted on 7/30/18 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 12:59 pm to
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Pecker claimed moms are delusional for saying motherhood is the toughest job in the world.


No he didn't.
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Lnch said you wouldn’t know without experiencing it.


No I didn't.

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You don’t need to be a parent to know that while it’s hard, harder jobs exist in the world.


Who said this isn't the case?

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 12:59 pm to
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I don't want my kids to have a teacher that only punches the clock from 7-3 M-F..This guy doesn't care..He literally says

How absurd is this.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 12:59 pm to
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It's not that hard for me, but maybe you went through SPED.

Teacher BOOM!!!!!
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:00 pm to
A hard job cannot be the best job. The best job should be saved for jobs that you love.

Loved jobs makes the hardness go away.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 1:01 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:00 pm to
Here's my perspective as a high school teacher of 6 years, university instructor of 2 years, community college instructor of two years, and soon-to-be middle school teacher:

Teaching isn't the hardest job in the world. We are paid well if you get a master's and don't live in a shithole state (see Louisiana). Excel in your job and get hired in a predominantly white, wealthy suburban school system and you will have plenty of positive parental support and resources. Put in your work the first few years and you'll earn tenure and never be forced to participate in any extracurricular activities ever.

But it is a tough job. It's not easy. Anyone who wants to claim otherwise is just being a stubborn a-hole for whatever reason. Teachers in this thread have already mentioned their schedules, but they should forget the hours worked or other stressors of the job. They're not the real hard parts.

It's draining to spend that much time with a large group of kids. That's the hardest part of the job. Everything else can fall into line with being proactive, staying organized, and being innovative. But nothing can overcome the drudgery that comes every year with working with students who are clumsy, immature, and often defiant (even if the defiance isn't overt - all young people would rather play than engage in serious learning).

Now I will say that every time these threads pop up, I get a little flustered. There's so much animosity towards teachers and all of the arguments and mockery are missing a better target. You want to shite on a profession? Look at the Ivory Tower. They bitch almost as much as public school teachers, have real tenure, have high salaries, flexible schedules, sabbaticals, utmost respect, and very small teaching loads.
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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:01 pm to
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He can't unless he's done them. It's the only way to know



I literally said the exact opposite of this earlier in the thread.
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So one must be x to understand what x does? is that what you're saying.
Yes or no? The answer is no to the question you're asking
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Jp1LSU
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:01 pm to
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Finally a teacher says the truth around here.


I don't want my kids to have a teacher that only punches the clock from 7-3 M-F..This guy doesn't care..He literally says
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because it's pretty easy


I bet this reflects in his students scores


When people ask me why I think my job is pretty easy, I tell them it’s because the students do all the work. The best teachers I have observed don’t leave school exhausted and overworked their students do.
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:01 pm to
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I wanna know what Parish/School has these hours


The morning bell is at 7:30 and the afternoon bell is at 2:40. Our principal doesn't require us to stay after the bell unless we have afternoon duty. I live close to school so if I leave at the bell I'm home in less than 5 minutes.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:02 pm to
I'm a teacher. The teachers in the OP story are delusional, and they make us all look bad. Teaching is nowhere near the toughest job in the world. That being said, I'd estimate that roughly half of today's teachers have no business in the classroom, public or private. One can look at turnover rate and see this. If you want to remedy the situation, you have to make the occupation more attractive to those who do or can do it better. Spring test scores and twice a year administrative observations are not accurate gauges of being a good teacher. Pull students who care about learning and interview them about their teachers if you want a truer picture of teacher quality.
Posted by the paradigm
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:02 pm to
I’ve been teaching for 20 years and I don’t find it to be all that tough. Holidays and summers off, and I get off at 2:30 every day, so I’ve been able to spend afternoons with my kids as they’ve grown. As long as you have solid classroom management — a skill that many teachers lack (especially the young females) — it’s relatively smooth sailing. There’s a lot of pressure from admins for student growth and whatnot, but I’ve never had any issues w/ that.
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Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:03 pm to
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I go in at 7 and I'm home by 2:45 like sitting on my couch watching TV by then.


I had these hours for two years. It was fricking GLORIOUS. They asked me to come in early to watch the lunchroom while high schoolers arrived early to school. School technically didn't start until 7:50am and let out at 2:50.

But because I got there at 6:55am, I got to take 8th period off.

You know what I did from 6:55am until 7:50? Graded, planned, sent emails from my laptop.

You know where I was by 2:15pm? Home. Or out. Or wherever. Just not at school!
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:03 pm to
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Now I will say that every time these threads pop up, I get a little flustered. There's so much animosity towards teachers and all of the arguments and mockery are missing a better target.


I think the animosity it focused on teachers who think they have the "toughest job in the world", not teachers in general.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:04 pm to
You also hedged your bet by saying you can simultaneously know and not know how hard it is.
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:05 pm to
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I think the animosity it focused on teachers who think they have the "toughest job in the world", not teachers in general.



Dude are you reading these threads? Pecker would open a teacher concentration camp with gas chambers if he could.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:05 pm to
6 pages and I have yet to see anyone mention the amount of stress that comes with scrolling thru endless classroom decoration ideas on Pinterest..

not only that, but the added burden of then having to take the perfect Instagram picture of your classroom, as well as typing up a long-winded rant about how you can't afford your classroom supplies
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:05 pm to
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Pecker claimed moms are delusional for saying motherhood is the toughest job in the world.

Lnch said you wouldn’t know without experiencing it.

Fair enough. There's been a lot of back and forth, I was following the string of replies where Pecker said it's proposterous to say he doesn't know what it's like to raise a child. But that couldn't be more 100% truth if he hasn't, in fact, raised a child, he may know it's a tough gig, but he does not know "what it's like"

If other posts were made, then I probably missed that portion of the discussion.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:06 pm to
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Where does it say I don't care? So because I'm a teacher I should be required to do work when I'm not at school?
That poster you replied to seems to have a knack for not understanding context around a sentence posted on a message board, so that's par for the course for him.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:06 pm to
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Fair enough. There's been a lot of back and forth, I was following the string of replies where Pecker said it's proposterous to say he doesn't know what it's like to raise a child. But that couldn't be more 100% truth if he hasn't, in fact, raised a child, he may know it's a tough gig, but he does not know "what it's like"

If other posts were made, then I probably missed that portion of the discussion.


He's misrepresenting what was actually said.
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:07 pm to
As a teacher these hyperbolic statements make me ill.

It is a frustrating gig and a challenge. But nowhere near the toughest job in the world.

If you have a personality, patience, common sense, empathy, enthusiasm and knowledge you can do it well. A lot of people have most of those but not all.

And I am sorry- but if you are working 6-6 and doing another 4 hours a day on the weekend- you are doing it wrong. Work smarter not harder. Learn to say no and set some boundaries.
Posted by Baers Foot
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:07 pm to
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