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re: Baton Rouge spends nearly the same amount on 14 libraries as St George's entire budget

Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:17 am to
More than just internet access. People need to fill out job applications, have resume workshops, interview training, etc...
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43082 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:17 am to
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bloat and wasted money; a pretty good public library system is not the one to make this point.

It is an entirely different topic.

I think it needs a good scrubbing, but it has nothing to do with SG and its their mistake for bringing it up.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53837 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:18 am to
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You do know that in order to access the internet you need a device, which people receiving government assistance may not be able to afford.

Errrbody in Cleveland got them an Obama phone
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:21 am to
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Why in the hell do we need so many libraries in 2018? I think we should keep Goodwood and 2 or 3 others and shut down the rest.


This. I spent some time in Lake Charles and although it isn't Baton Rouge big, about 74,000 residents, they only have two library branches in the city. EBR has a way bigger inventory, but I find it hard to believe they need that many branches.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17854 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:22 am to
I'm curious where they got both of their numbers. Are they saying that BR spends $56 million on libraries each year? Also weren't there numerous libraries built in the past few years, are they including those costs as well?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39244 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:23 am to
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You do know that in order to access the internet you need a device, which people receiving government assistance may not be able to afford.

Find me 10 people in a America under the age of 65 who don't have a smart phone or other internet ready device.

For fricks sake. OUR HOMELESS HAVE SMART PHONES.
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
2545 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:24 am to
You sound like the same type of liberal who thinks black people are to stupid to get an ID or too poor to have internet. See this short video with it all on display. Watch the black response in the second half. Hilarious.

YouTube - White liberals see black voters as too stupid to get ID
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 10:31 am
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:24 am to
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I just looked up the Houston Public Library system budget on houstontx.gov and it's yearly total expenditures are $40,002,998 for 44 branches.



I've been to a few of the Houston libraries. Is that number stand alone libraries? Some are a part of a community college or museum, etc..
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39244 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:24 am to
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More than just internet access. People need to fill out job applications, have resume workshops, interview training, etc...


You need a pen and a paper to fill pit a job application. You don't need a library for resume workshops. Nor for interview training.

Any more excuses?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43082 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:31 am to
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The report you linked claims only 33 million in expenditures in year 1 which is grossly below other cities of comparable population. Even those listed on the report. They’re also factoring in $0 for police/fire/civil service. Is there an updated budget?


The SG report shows a couple of cities with more expenses, but more that have about the same or less.

Fire protection would not be a city service, if you know anything about SG you'd know we have fire districts now for protection. It works well, even BR uses it for coverage.

Law enforcement is by the sheriff and there is an amount listed in the budget to supplement the sheriff.

Civil service??? Can't answer that one, but I'm guessing it's a parish wide thing but I could be wrong.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7274 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:32 am to
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Obama phone


Reagan phone.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43082 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:33 am to
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I've been to a few of the Houston libraries. Is that number stand alone libraries? Some are a part of a community college or museum, etc..

Which is a good way to maximize tax dollars.
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
2011 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:36 am to
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quote:
it's yearly total expenditures are $40,002,998 for 44 branches.


Including salaries and pensions?


Yes.

Salary Base Pay, Salary Part Time, Overtime, Premium Pay, Bilingual Pay, Pension, Termination Pay, FICA, Health Insurance, Basic Life, LTD, Workers Comp, and Unemployment.

There are no excuses.
Posted by PhilemonThomas
Member since Jan 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:37 am to
Go back and read what I posted and rethink what you posted.

A EBR library card allows you to access stuff that is usually behind a paywall. You see your phone can provide access to these services but unless you steal them you have to pay for them.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69729 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:39 am to
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I'm curious where they got both of their numbers. Are they saying that BR spends $56 million on libraries each year? Also weren't there numerous libraries built in the past few years, are they including those costs as well?


For a post that claims to be “all about facts” they posted very few. Read the advocate article Here. It’s a good look at the financial gymnastics that are going on.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91676 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:39 am to
Looks to me they are just showing how much money is wasted on something.
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
2545 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:40 am to
You think tax payers should be providing streaming music, movies, and games?
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
2011 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:40 am to
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I've been to a few of the Houston libraries. Is that number stand alone libraries? Some are a part of a community college or museum, etc..


It appears as though 35 are standalone neighborhood libraries, 3 special libraries (African American Library, Genealogical Research Library, Metro Research Center), 4 express locations, and 2 partnership libraries.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4638 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:42 am to
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You need a pen and a paper to fill pit a job application. You don't need a library for resume workshops. Nor for interview training.

Any more excuses?


False. I helped a gentleman for over an hour fill out a job application for one of the chain restaurants up at the Mall of Louisiana. He was applying for a dishwashing position. The manager told him he had to fill out the online application (with the 100 question personality survey), and then the manager would get the completed application from the corporate HR department. More and more companies are going this route and eliminating the paper application in favor of electronic applications, and I believe it is the first way to weed out potential applicants. If you can't work a computer, you probably won't get hired. Anecdotal evidence? Sure, but what you are trying to claim (pen and paper applications) is not accurate in the current workplace, even with low wage positions.

I've dealt with this problem with first hand experience. I know what I am talking about.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43082 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:44 am to
You should have started another thread. This is eye opening.
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