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re: Baton Rouge spends nearly the same amount on 14 libraries as St George's entire budget

Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:41 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43082 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:41 am to
LINK

From their website
EZ to find
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:42 am to
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The point of the post is to show how bloated everything is in Baton Rouge. St George says they will be posting similar facts as the days and weeks go on.


I get that. But don’t use the library system that St. George is keeping as justification
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36636 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:42 am to
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hope St. George succeeds but their budget will double within the first ten years just from realizing that they'll eventually be forced to build up their own municipal police department.

Whether it's Sid Gautreaux or his successor, eventually a sheriff election will revolve around the rest of the parish's sour grapes for subsidizing police protection in a city the size of Baton Rouge that doesn't want to pay for its own police. Baker, Zachary, and Baton Rouge all pay for their own police departments and Central has had to steadily grow their own over the last ten years. Nobody is going to just give a city of 86,000+ (and probably the richest per capita in the parish) a pass on having subsidized police coverage.



Its odd that they have a city court budgeted, but no police force for it.

EBR tickets go to District court.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43082 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:43 am to
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Nobody is going to just give a city of 86,000+ (and probably the richest per capita in the parish) a pass on having subsidized police coverage.

They budget MORE funding for the sheriff's office
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:43 am to
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I took my son to the new main library


why? Will you ever go back?
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:43 am to
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And then, the truly best part is when St George can actually get a public school going and it becomes the first almost all white public school in decades.


If this were anywhere but the OT I'd think this was a plant by an opponent of the StG proposal. But judging by the number of likes you got, I guess not.
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5177 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:44 am to
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This post was edited on 9/26/20 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
12126 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:45 am to
So, that's one library for each person who is literate in BR.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61883 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:45 am to
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And then, the truly best part is when St George can actually get a public school going and it becomes the first almost all white public school in decades.


You could put it right on Gardere Lane.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43082 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:57 am to
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It doesn't matter what they do. 86,000 people won't be able to outvote Baton Rouge + Baker + Zachary and all three will be pissed that they pay for police departments and St. George doesn't. A sheriff will run on the issue and win and that will be that.

You are trying to make an argument where there is nothing to argue about. We could play what ifs all day.

The fact is citizens in SG are currently being served by the sheriff. We pay taxes for these services right now. It's a parish wide tax.

If SG does or doesn't become a city the police protection will not change. If people feel good about the current service, they should not expect a change if a city is formed.

But organizers understand SGeans might want better coverage than they have now and are allocating funds in the budget to provide better services.

And who know who the next sheriff will be. Hopefully it will be someone who upholds the constitution and enforces the law. If it's not then what difference would it make if SG is s city or not?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:04 am to
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It doesn't matter what they do. 86,000 people won't be able to outvote Baton Rouge + Baker + Zachary and all three will be pissed that they pay for police departments and St. George doesn't.


If true, then why so much fighting to prevent this from coming to a vote? Why not let the vote happen?
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1596 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:10 am to
So I haven't been in Baton Rouge long enough to know much about the St. George on going issue. Can someone give me the TLDR version of why people want st. George and also why people are saying its a bad idea?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:15 am to
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Can someone give me the TLDR version of why people want st. George and also why people are saying its a bad idea?


Some people in unincorporated East Baton Rouge want to set up their own city and Independent School District because they feel they are poorly served today.

Some others think it's a bad idea because it's racist to want to have more control over your community, tax dollars, and schools.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:22 am to
Ok... But that's a parish-wide library system. So will St. George residents not be allowed to use the libraries in EBR parish?

Some of those libraries will even be in St. George. So who's paying for them? Who's using them?

I'm sure there are tons of stats they can and will use but this library thing could have used some more thought.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36636 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:25 am to
I await the next budget attack.

Maybe they'll compare BR residents paying for two police departments vs their one.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30767 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:27 am to
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That’s surprising considering how much of the city can’t read.


Was my first thought
Posted by PhilemonThomas
Member since Jan 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:37 am to
The Library does offer some kick arse services online that I assume are not free for the library to offer. With a library card you have access to tons of current ebooks, streaming music, movies, games, curent newspapers, archived newspapers, and tons more. Yes "muh tax dollas" pay for all that. So take advantage of it. Read some "Gahdan Wood" or "Vickas" and learn something.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 9:16 am
Posted by PhilemonThomas
Member since Jan 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:37 am to
~Double post~

I had some weird "Post quantity and quality check" message.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 8:39 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58629 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:42 am to
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SG will still be paying for all 14 of these libraries.

Just like Zachary and Central do.
how long until SG, Zachary and Central team up against big bad EBR and knock it off its throne.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 8:52 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43082 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 8:43 am to
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I’m as big of a proponent of STG as any, but there is a huge difference between an actual budget for an entire library system for an entire parish and a fictitious budget for a small city that doesn’t exist yet.

I don't disagree, it's apples and oranges.

Perhaps they were trying to illustrate that over 460 people work in the Library System sync that SG won't have to hire near that many employees, but it really doesn't fit.
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