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re: At least 9 American women and children killed in Mexico, others missing

Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:06 am to
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14449 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:06 am to
Well thats weird didnt even make front page of yahoo.Wonder why? All it mentioned was border patrol agent killing an illegal and how the donald is ready to wage war on mexican cartels. Must not be news if the democrats dont feel it fits their agenda.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 9:07 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:08 am to
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Yes. Let’s make this about politics even though it is a cartel issue

Sheesh, I've always viewed you as kind of stupid, but lawless groups operating across an international border isn't politics?


Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:08 am to
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Well thats weird didnt even make front page of yahoo.


LINK

its right there on the first page

its also on the front page of the NYT and WaPo

This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 9:12 am
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:11 am to
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Somalia

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Nola is worse than here!

Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:11 am to
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It’s pretty much an American town

Good God, youre retarded

I guess by your standards, Detroit is a Kenyan village too, huh?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:15 am to
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Good God, youre retarded


Give her a break. She’s going through menopause which makes her even more retarded than usual
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17131 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:20 am to
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LINK

its right there on the first page

its also on the front page of the NYT and WaPo


In his defense he is still running on dial-up and rushed to judgement when the first photo loaded was not part of his narrative.
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 9:21 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14068 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:22 am to
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I'm not buying that they were targeted by mistake.



David Ortiz was nearly killed by a Sicario who mistook him for someone else. These cartel members are of low intelligence and run around high on their own supply. Shite like this happens




David ortiz was shot in a bar in the Dominican republic. That's a far cry from killing mass quantities of seemingly wholesome american men, women and children.

The cartels might, from time to time kill the errant american but they're not gonna kill entire American families by mistake. I don't think this was an "oops" moment. I think they were killed for what the cartel considers a pretty good reason.

They're not inviting this sort of international scrutiny over nothing.

Killing a shitload of Americans isn't like killing a shitload of dirt poor Mexicans. No one care about them.

I think these mormons were involved in some shite and they got killed over it. If so, it'll come out. It always does.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20440 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:31 am to
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You think the Mormons are trying to start their own drug cartel?



No, I think the Mormons likely own a huge swath of land and protect it vigorously and the drug cartels either want access or they otherwise wanted to send a statement to the Mormons. I'm not saying this is the case here, but it wouldn't be the first time Mormons, Catholic Church, or another religion fought with the locals.

For all we know, the local drug cartel leader was Catholic and didn't believe in the Mormons polygamy.

I just don't think you ride 3 suburbans deep with nothing but women and children. There's a reason they did that and its more likely than not the Mormons were shooting back.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13476 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:32 am to
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I guess by your standards, Detroit is a Kenyan village too, huh?


Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48838 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:32 am to
It was founded by Americans and is mostly populated by American and its in the borderlands. Probably as many Americans as any town just north of the border.

You people think the United States is going to drop bombs into Mexico?

Y’all fricking stupid.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20440 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:33 am to
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Killing a shitload of Americans


Were they really Americans? Sounds more like they were Mexicans with dual citizenship to American to me. I'll allow they were Americans, but they were choosing to live and work in Mexico with Mexican citizenship in the least.

I also wouldn't doubt the cartel thought these were just Mexicans and didn't think it would cause a stink in the USA.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13476 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:34 am to
Can we all just stop and think for a minute? Can you imagine the horror of thugs executing women and children? What kind of fricking animal executed an innocent child?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20440 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:35 am to
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Can we all just stop and think for a minute? Can you imagine the horror of thugs executing women and children? What kind of fricking animal executed an innocent child?




Are you really surprised by this? This is not uncommon in the drug wars of Mexico or other places in central and south america. They are brutal to each other.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23875 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:37 am to
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wouldn't surprise me

the Mormoms have such a fricked up history



people keep just casually dropping that these colonies are there for the FLDS to avoid US law enforcement, which is only partially correct. '



what they leave out, is that an overwhelming majority of these colonies support their polygamous lifestyle by basically enslaving 9-13 year girls. It's horrible that women and children took the brunt of this, but lets not pretend that these cant be incredibly evil people
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 9:38 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20440 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:39 am to
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these colonies are there for the FLDS to avoid US law enforcement


Just think for a moment that these idiots would rather live in the middle of Mexican Drug cartel strong holds then the USA. That's how fricked up their lifestyle is.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22729 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:40 am to
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Mexican cartels have learned from the radical Islamic terrorist that in general Americans do not have the stomach for violence against themselves. Politicians and the general public cower when things like this happen and resolve to bargaining for peace or just pretending we are all friends and maybe the bad stuff will stop.


What are you talking about? We are literally still at war with the fuse twisters because they killed 3000 of our citizens 18 years ago.
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:44 am to
God damn Trumpy, drop the fricking bomb on these MFers!!!!
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17155 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:58 am to
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They described a terrifying scene in which one child was gunned down while running away


When awful shite like this happens I am more than ok with

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“A wonderful family and friends from Utah got caught between two vicious drug cartels, who were shooting at each other, with the result being many great American people killed, including young children, and some missing. If Mexico needs or requests help in cleaning out these monsters, the United States stands ready, willing & able to get involved and do the job quickly and effectively. The great new President of Mexico has made this a big issue, but the cartels have become so large and powerful that you sometimes need an army to defeat an army!”
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98180 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:03 am to
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This is a group of fundamentalist Mormons that fled the U.S. years ago mainly because of Polygamy laws. At least some of their communities they set up years, even decades ago, are now in the middle of Cartel wars.


IIRC some of Mitt Romney's kinfolk have a colony down there. Vice or somebody did a documentary on them a couple of years ago. They're well armed and the cartels generally don't frick with them on their own turf. Apparently they caught this group far from their home area.
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