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Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:24 pm to LSUGrrrl
quote:Following the storm thread last night had me looking at some online. Are there any credible success stories with those?
We got a price quote for a 6 person storm shelter anchored to slab for $8000. Was getting ready to install when we had roof, water damage where we planned to install. Hoping to get it in place before next spring now.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 12:33 pm to mmcgrath
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Following the storm thread last night had me looking at some online. Are there any credible success stories with those?
Yes, built to FEMA standards, they have a great track record. Do some research and talk to people who have safe rooms/shelters. The market has become fairly saturated with builders over the past decade, and I don't know how reputable all of their products are.
A neighbor of mine built an addition onto their home that included a new bedroom and walk-in closet. They made the closet a safe room that is unnoticeable from the outside. The door was the costliest part. They followed FEMA plans and did most all of the work themselves.
You can also register the exact GPS coordinates of your shelter with FEMA, though I'm not sure how. That helps if a town or neighborhood is leveled. They, theoretically, already know where to look if a shelter is buried in debris.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:16 pm to AUstar
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A guy with an 18 wheeler on top of his house.
Mr Pearce. 18 wheeler crushed and killed him
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:20 pm to The Boat
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There’s a few places in this country I wouldn’t live in without a basement or a storm shelter. Central and northern Mississippi and Alabama are two of those places. The problem is those are expensive and most people in these rural towns can’t afford them.
In places like Rolling Fork you can’t have basements. Too low lying and delta houses all have foundation issues due to the gumbo soil. Anything with a basement will crack and flood and end up full of snakes
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:27 pm to tide06
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They had time to tell people to go. I get that they don’t want to cause panic and depending on where someone is they could just drive right into it, but not telling them what to expect doesn’t seem fair either.
RF residents had no idea this was coming. There was a warned cell but the tornado wasn’t spotted and confirmed as a violent wedge until minutes before it hit town
It hit the Dollar General and killed everyone inside I heard. BIL was there last night doing search and rescue. I’ve been told there are bodies and body parts in trees. It’s horrific. Still missing some infants and teenagers
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:30 pm to prostyleoffensetime
I hope it missed Mont Helena in rolling fork
One of the coolest houses in Mississippi built on an Indian burial mound
One of the coolest houses in Mississippi built on an Indian burial mound
Posted on 3/25/23 at 1:53 pm to deltaland
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One of the coolest houses in Mississippi built on an Indian burial mound
Hope they never decide to build an in-ground pool.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:08 pm to deltaland
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RF residents had no idea this was coming. There was a warned cell but the tornado wasn’t spotted and confirmed as a violent wedge until minutes before it hit town
You are 100% correct, RF had no chance.
I was speaking to some of the towns like Amory further down the road with this cell when it was so clear on the radar signature and had been raising hell for a long time. And I certainly understand that it’s not possible to in effect evacuate even a small town in mere minutes over night.
I’m just speaking personally that having seen what the high end storms can do I’m taking my chances driving unless I have a damn good place to ride it out.
Either way, the important thing is helping the people that were impacted so if any locals can identify groups who are doing good work in the area I would like to support them. Just want to make sure the funds are used locally and the group is trustworthy.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:27 pm to deltaland
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RF residents had no idea this was coming. There was a warned cell but the tornado wasn’t spotted and confirmed as a violent wedge until minutes before it hit town
They weren’t alerted by cell phone?
Posted on 3/25/23 at 2:32 pm to AUstar
Damn that’s wild! You need an underground shelter to survive that level of damage. Tornados are 100x scarier than hurricanes
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:03 pm to deltaland
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One of the coolest houses in Mississippi built on an Indian burial mound
Gotta be hainted
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:03 pm to CoastLSUFan
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No. Rolling Fork is in the Delta. It’s nowhere near the Coast, but the images are reminiscent of the Coast after Katrina hit. I think Rolling Fork looks even worse.
Not to get into a dick measuring contest over damage but I see people say these types of things quite a bit and as someone who has visited many disaster zones, Mississippi after Katrina is as bad as it gets.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:06 pm to TimeOutdoors
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They weren’t alerted by cell phone?
My point was to the poster that asked why not get in the car and get out of the path was that by the time it was confirmed a large tornado on the ground was headed towards RF they didn’t have time to leave
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:08 pm to mmcgrath
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Following the storm thread last night had me looking at some online. Are there any credible success stories with those?
Yep. There's a few companies that build them out of steel reinforced concrete with about 3 foot thick walls. Basically like a mini nuclear plant. Ain't nothing knocking that down.
Or you can also get them made of solid steel (which is cheaper) and those can withstand extreme conditions as well. Like this one:
LINK
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:10 pm to deltaland
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I’ve been told there are bodies and body parts in trees. It’s horrific. Still missing some infants and teenagers
Damn that's horrible.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:18 pm to deltaland
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RF residents had no idea this was coming. There was a warned cell but the tornado wasn’t spotted and confirmed as a violent wedge until minutes before it hit town
This isn't really true, though.
The first Tornado Warning for that storm went out at 7:46pm directly to their SW, a full 20 minutes before the tornado reached Rolling Fork.
The first Tornado Warning that included the town went out at 7:54pm, twelve minutes before the tornado reached the town.
That warning was upgraded to a PDS warning at 7:59, seven minutes prior to the tornado reaching town.
That is better lead time, particularly in the early stages of a tornado-producing storm, than we often see. I'm all for calling out missed or delayed warning when it is warranted, I just don't believe this one is warranted.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:22 pm to tide06
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Either way, the important thing is helping the people that were impacted so if any locals can identify groups who are doing good work in the area I would like to support them. Just want to make sure the funds are used locally and the group is trustworthy.
Eight Days of Hope is one group I have seen that is coordinating efforts already. Sirens Project, a highly trained, professional tree removal non-profit is working with them in the area.
If Sirens Project vouches for them, they're legit. They have been all over immediately after all sorts of storms.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:23 pm to LegendInMyMind
So half the town gets the warning with ten minutes lead time.
WHERE DO THEY GO????
What do they do? And they are all hitting the road within a few minutes of each other.
WHERE DO THEY GO????
What do they do? And they are all hitting the road within a few minutes of each other.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 3:24 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Nah, people realize when they live in a mobile home what the tradeoffs are.
That can be mitigated somewhat by having them anchored.
The issue is people live in mobile homes for the most part because they are cheap, requiring underground shelters just makes it more expensive.
You could also require beefier construction, but again that just increases cost and kind of defeats the purpose of mobile homes.
I don't think shelters would have mattered here, these poor people didn't appear to have any warning.
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