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re: At least 23 dead in Mississippi tornadoes

Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:44 am to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58095 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:44 am to
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That seems like an insane number of deaths—even for a tornado.


It might until you watch that drone video a few post up.
Posted by SaltyMcKracker
Member since Sep 2011
2756 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:44 am to
Anchors wouldn't have helped here



Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
5809 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:48 am to
Damn. I’m not sure you can even rebuild in this sort of scenario. There’s nothing left at all
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11140 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:55 am to
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That can be mitigated somewhat by having them anchored. But you get a mile wide F5 and you're screwed even if you live in a stick built home with a basement.

I’m not sure I’d want to be in anything but a below ground shelter for an F5.

You look at the pictures from Phil Campbell/Smithville MS/etc and they were scouring the ground.

Wood frame houses, metal building, brick houses… didn’t matter.

Phil Campbell had a confirmed case of a storm shelter losing its cement top.
F5 Damage eval

Bottom line, if I know for a fact an F4/F5 is coming and have more than five minutes of warning I’m getting in a car and driving away.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 10:39 am
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
24561 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:57 am to
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I'd would


Geeze
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164028 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:57 am to
There’s a few places in this country I wouldn’t live in without a basement or a storm shelter. Central and northern Mississippi and Alabama are two of those places. The problem is those are expensive and most people in these rural towns can’t afford them.

Nocturnal long track tornadoes through Dixie Alley are a recipe for disaster.
Posted by Yaz 8
Member since Jun 2020
1120 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:58 am to
This is what I’m doing also.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 9:59 am to
We got a price quote for a 6 person storm shelter anchored to slab for $8000. Was getting ready to install when we had roof, water damage where we planned to install. Hoping to get it in place before next spring now.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13489 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:02 am to
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quote:
Official death toll in Mississippi is currently at 23 according to the Mississippi EMA:

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That seems like an insane number of deaths—even for a tornado.




Yeah the Tuscaloosa one in 2011 had 49 dead in Tuscaloosa (64 total). Tuscaloosa is much larger than those towns so I assume it just wiped everything thing off the map.

The charity I am associated with (Here to Serve) is looking for a place to setup and seeing what their EMA wants us to do. We have been to LA several times over the years. If we do respond I can post where we are so if anyone wants to drop off water or stuff for the people there we can help you get it out.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:02 am to
That might be the worst I have seen....
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29208 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:02 am to
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There’s a few places in this country I wouldn’t live in without a basement or a storm shelter. Central and northern Mississippi and Alabama are two of those places. The problem is those are expensive and most people in these rural towns can’t afford them.


My grandparents have one buried in the ground behind their house.. it’s about 50 yards away from the Backdoor . Although they’re in their 80’s and don’t move well.. not sure they could even get to it if they wanted and also who knows if any critters are down in there

Can’t remember how much they paid for it, luckily my dad does heavy equipment work so he’s the one who installed it
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:05 am to
Aaron Rigsby video of damage in daylight
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 10:06 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11140 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:05 am to
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Rolling Fork in daylight LINK

Another example of why I believe people should be taught to leave if they don’t have underground shelters in these extreme cases.

Watch that video and show me where someone walks away unscathed above ground in a home?

Those aren’t trailers, those are well built houses and not a single room is intact.

Saw it first hand with the Hackleburg storm where it tracked for 100 miles on a very similar path to this one (pull up a map of hackleburg and you’ll see Amory and Smithville down to the SW).

They had time to tell people to go. I get that they don’t want to cause panic and depending on where someone is they could just drive right into it, but not telling them what to expect doesn’t seem fair either.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 10:09 am
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131235 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:08 am to
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Another example of why I believe people should be taught to leave if they don’t have underground shelters in these extreme cases.


When do they leave? Every time there is a thunderstorm?

You only get minutes notice of tornado. You think being in a car is safer?
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8585 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:11 am to
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RogerTheShrubber



When did you turn into such an a-hole? Use to think you were one of the cooler posters on here
Posted by Yaz 8
Member since Jun 2020
1120 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:13 am to
Some of these storms you have a good bit of notice. If I know one is heading my way I’m bugging out.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11140 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:16 am to
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When do they leave? Every time there is a thunderstorm? You only get minutes notice of tornado. You think being in a car is safer?

The 2011 storms were warned 10+ minutes out with videos and radar confirming speeds well into the F4/F5 range. Some of them crossed the entire state or parts of multiple states. These are long track, super cell nightmare storms that are pretty unique to Dixie Alley and N TX/OK for the most part.

Everyone in the thread last night could tell what that cell was and what it was gonna do to any town it touched.

I’m not saying it’s always applicable, possible or advisable to tell people to leave. But with those monsters where you can I’m saying if you don’t explain to people what the likely outcome is if you stay you haven’t given people what they need to make an informed decision.
This post was edited on 3/25/23 at 10:19 am
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
2437 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:18 am to
Drones have really changed they way we are able to see things from perspective like never before.

That is crazy damage. The force it takes to twist a tree and break it is unimaginable

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34331 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:23 am to
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Here's video from Rolling Fork, MS.




That's terrible. That makes the tornado that hit here back in January look small in comparison.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34331 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 10:28 am to




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