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re: Argentine submarine missing at sea
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:15 am to terd ferguson
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:15 am to terd ferguson
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230ft below the surface
There's no reason anyone died if the sub is this shallow.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:23 am to LSUERDOC
This sank a year ago. They found it today in 2600 feet of water...
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:29 am to IT_Dawg
At 2600 feet, arent we talking about compacted debris at this point? What does pressure do to the sub at that depth?
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:31 am to jbgleason
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This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 9:31 am
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:45 am to jbgleason
Crush depth on this diesel built, in early 80’s, must be around 1000 ft. At 2600, I would imagine it’s compromised and likely a canof sardines or spread out pretty good, depending on when it broke apart
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 11:29 am
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:46 am to TypoKnig
An interview with a family member said that family members were to be shown photos of the ships and that their family members were in side it.
LINK
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The Seabed Constructor, a vessel owned by US search firm Ocean Infinity, which set out in September on the latest attempt to find the San Juan, made the discovery.
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The Seabed Constructor is equipped with cameras that can be submerged to a depth of 6,000 meters. It was to receive a reward of $7.5 million if it found the missing sub.
LINK
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:56 am to IT_Dawg
Interesting that this thread was bumped exactly one year from the OP.
Did you have this thread bookmarked or did you search and find this thread?
Did you have this thread bookmarked or did you search and find this thread?
Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:59 am to jbgleason
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At 2600 feet, arent we talking about compacted debris at this point? What does pressure do to the sub at that depth?
Depends on when the hull was compromised. Deep enough and everything inside just kinda instantly blows apart and burns, basically. The mechanical impact of the pressure change just pulps and crushes everything. But, do you remember how your bike pump would get hot when you'd use it to fill your bike's tire by raising the pressure quickly? Or, even better, how a diesel engine operates by compressing the fuel/air mix until it gets hot enough to burn? Same idea with the air inside the sub, so all that smashed stuff just basically goes WOOF before it mixes with the sea.
If the hull were shallower when it let go, maybe those sailors were blown apart and killed instantly by the impact of the pressure change and the water hitting them and didn't have to drown, but the temperature wouldn't rise fast or high enough for WOOF. Just "squish".
If it were shallower still... well, that's a less messy, but far more terrible death. The LUCKY ones would drown immediately when the hull opened. The trapped ones...
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 10:12 am
Posted on 11/17/18 at 10:20 am to IT_Dawg
Sucks... but at least they were found.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 10:28 am to jbgleason
Its roughly 40 psi for every 100 ft of depth... so at 2600 ft that would be a little over 1000 psi.
TR1700 class subs have a test depth of 900-1000 ft according to Google search. So they normally operate at 400 psi max. I'm sure there is some significant hull damage/compression at 2600 ft.
TR1700 class subs have a test depth of 900-1000 ft according to Google search. So they normally operate at 400 psi max. I'm sure there is some significant hull damage/compression at 2600 ft.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:31 am to East Coast Band
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Interesting that this thread was bumped exactly one year from the OP. Did you have this thread bookmarked or did you search and find this thread?
Searched. I remember it from last year and knew it officially went missing a year and 2 days ago.
They had a ceremony for the families 2 days ago and the President vowed to never stop looking until they found it. Pretty crazy
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:26 pm to IT_Dawg
I was in San Diego and one argentine sub was in port. It was small next to ours.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:38 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Argentina has a submarine?
Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:45 pm to kywildcatfanone
They had 2
Now they have 1
Now they have 1
Posted on 11/17/18 at 2:31 pm to Cosmo
When I saw this thread had been bumped, it gave me a sinking feeling.
Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:11 pm to Tiger Roux
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I was in San Diego and one argentine sub was in port. It was small next to ours.
Most subs are smaller compared than our 688's and Virginia's
I remember seeing a German U-boat in port and thinking "Where's the rest of it?"
Posted on 11/17/18 at 4:14 pm to Tigeralum2008
Someone mentioned the Sub (U-505) at the Science Museum in Chicago...the one you technically cant take pictures of. I seen it!
Posted on 11/17/18 at 8:21 pm to Crow Pie
Posted on 11/17/18 at 8:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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And all that remains is the faces and the names Of the wives and the sons and the daughters
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:12 am to highcotton2
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highcotton2
Helluva time to out yourself, Gordon
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