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re: Argentine submarine missing at sea

Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:15 am to
Posted by LSUERDOC
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:15 am to
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230ft below the surface


There's no reason anyone died if the sub is this shallow.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:23 am to
This sank a year ago. They found it today in 2600 feet of water...
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:29 am to
At 2600 feet, arent we talking about compacted debris at this point? What does pressure do to the sub at that depth?
Posted by TypoKnig
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:31 am to
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Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:45 am to
Crush depth on this diesel built, in early 80’s, must be around 1000 ft. At 2600, I would imagine it’s compromised and likely a canof sardines or spread out pretty good, depending on when it broke apart
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 11:29 am
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:46 am to
An interview with a family member said that family members were to be shown photos of the ships and that their family members were in side it.

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The Seabed Constructor, a vessel owned by US search firm Ocean Infinity, which set out in September on the latest attempt to find the San Juan, made the discovery.


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The Seabed Constructor is equipped with cameras that can be submerged to a depth of 6,000 meters. It was to receive a reward of $7.5 million if it found the missing sub.


LINK
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:56 am to
Interesting that this thread was bumped exactly one year from the OP.
Did you have this thread bookmarked or did you search and find this thread?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 9:59 am to
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At 2600 feet, arent we talking about compacted debris at this point? What does pressure do to the sub at that depth?


Depends on when the hull was compromised. Deep enough and everything inside just kinda instantly blows apart and burns, basically. The mechanical impact of the pressure change just pulps and crushes everything. But, do you remember how your bike pump would get hot when you'd use it to fill your bike's tire by raising the pressure quickly? Or, even better, how a diesel engine operates by compressing the fuel/air mix until it gets hot enough to burn? Same idea with the air inside the sub, so all that smashed stuff just basically goes WOOF before it mixes with the sea.

If the hull were shallower when it let go, maybe those sailors were blown apart and killed instantly by the impact of the pressure change and the water hitting them and didn't have to drown, but the temperature wouldn't rise fast or high enough for WOOF. Just "squish".

If it were shallower still... well, that's a less messy, but far more terrible death. The LUCKY ones would drown immediately when the hull opened. The trapped ones...
This post was edited on 11/17/18 at 10:12 am
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 10:20 am to
Sucks... but at least they were found.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 10:28 am to
Its roughly 40 psi for every 100 ft of depth... so at 2600 ft that would be a little over 1000 psi.

TR1700 class subs have a test depth of 900-1000 ft according to Google search. So they normally operate at 400 psi max. I'm sure there is some significant hull damage/compression at 2600 ft.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 11:31 am to
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Interesting that this thread was bumped exactly one year from the OP. Did you have this thread bookmarked or did you search and find this thread?


Searched. I remember it from last year and knew it officially went missing a year and 2 days ago.

They had a ceremony for the families 2 days ago and the President vowed to never stop looking until they found it. Pretty crazy
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:26 pm to
I was in San Diego and one argentine sub was in port. It was small next to ours.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:38 pm to
Argentina has a submarine?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 1:45 pm to
They had 2

Now they have 1
Posted by toosleaux
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 2:31 pm to
When I saw this thread had been bumped, it gave me a sinking feeling.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 3:11 pm to
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I was in San Diego and one argentine sub was in port. It was small next to ours.



Most subs are smaller compared than our 688's and Virginia's

I remember seeing a German U-boat in port and thinking "Where's the rest of it?"
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25294 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 4:14 pm to
Someone mentioned the Sub (U-505) at the Science Museum in Chicago...the one you technically cant take pictures of. I seen it!




Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8593 posts
Posted on 11/17/18 at 8:21 pm to
LINK

Sub found "partially imploded" lying in a submarine canyon.
Some parts scattered.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/17/18 at 8:22 pm to
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And all that remains is the faces and the names Of the wives and the sons and the daughters
Posted by ever43
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:12 am to
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highcotton2


Helluva time to out yourself, Gordon
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