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re: Are today's teenagers being less likely to work the real cause of the labor shortage?

Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
11594 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:08 pm to
There's a labor shortage in a lot of professional jobs too. I think a lot of that is from boomers retiring
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:50 pm to
Blame the parents I have had some essential tell me their kids were too smart to be doing menial jobs, they were doing things to improve their chances of getting into a “good” college. In addition to working full time every summer during high school, I also worked every Saturday night, and my brother and I were responsible for all yard work. I haven’t seen a teenager mowing a yard in at least a decade.
Posted by blakelobbasteel
Member since Jun 2022
88 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:53 pm to
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Blame the parents I have had some essential tell me their kids were too smart to be doing menial jobs, they were doing things to improve their chances of getting into a “good” college. In addition to working full time every summer during high school, I also worked every Saturday night, and my brother and I were responsible for all yard work. I haven’t seen a teenager mowing a yard in at least a decade.


Crazy... I was in all AP classes, got outstanding grades, had multiple academic scholarship offers, and played 3 sports....yet still worked menial jobs in high school.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
6033 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:56 pm to
As someone who owns a small business the answer is no.

As someone who has another job consulting with various types of larger businesses, the answer is no.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
6033 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:58 pm to
Same here… less the scholarship offers.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:59 pm to
The last time I recall not having some menial job was when I was 14 - once i could drive I was put on a farm doing work.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
6585 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:04 pm to
Why not hire 2 nannies to work 20 hours or so each?
Posted by T_don
Abbeville
Member since Dec 2019
431 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:08 pm to
Parents forced me to work for what I wanted no questions even in college I pick up shifts at the hospital because I’m a nursing student it’s not even about the money I’m more interested in experience and helping others
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62558 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 8:37 pm to
Yes.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:49 am to
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I told him he would make more money cutting grass than doing these menial jobs, but he wanted to experience the service sector

Mowing lawns IS the service sector, and is a very underrated job for kids, you basically have to figure out all the ins and outs of running a business, not just how to operate the cash register and fryer.

You have to learn how to market your service to get customers. You have to learn how to do the job right so that they want you to come back. You have to figure out your overhead and how much you can charge in the local market - and from there figure out what your profit margin is. Then you have to learn how to minimize your overhead to increase your profit. Not to mention learning how to work on all of the equipment to keep it running. You get to view a business from the perspectives of labor AND management, thereby giving you an appreciation of both when you enter the professional world.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148134 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:51 am to
I’m not reading all that gibberish


Just wanted to comment on the topic


Are we really going to blame teenagers now? Gezus
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:52 am to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65027 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:57 am to
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One of the dads says his teenage son is old enough to work but doesn't because he has to focus on too many extracirricular activities for his college applications.


It’s called multi-tasking. Your buddy is part of the problem.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15628 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:04 am to
My kids are barely out of their teenage years. All 3 of them wanted to work before they were legally eligible and were willing to work for less than minimum wage.

Laws prevented them from getting jobs.

When they were legally allowed, they even applied for jobs that seemed to hire only Mexican laborers where it appeared the requirements were to show up on time and remain committed. They didn’t get hired during a time these businesses continued to indicate they were hiring. Were they being stereotyped because they were white boys from a good neighborhood?

Oh, and they were and still are avid video game players. It may surprise many that they still have not done any school shootings.

They all have jobs and are finding it easy to move up.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14379 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:33 am to
My son.. is getting paid 13 an hour plus some tips to fry cook and window serve food 2 days a week. That amount makes the 9 an hour the pool was offering not worth it not to mention the added hours he’d have to work..
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82689 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:37 am to
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One of the dads says his teenage son is old enough to work but doesn't because he has to focus on too many extracirricular activities for his college applications.



This was starting to become the norm back when I was in high school and then college. I was the only friend in my friend group with a job while at LSU. It was the weirdest thing to me. Work was the last thing affecting my grades. That was partying.

While I don't know if this is the reason specifically for the labor shortage, I do think the lack of HS/college student working has at least some role.

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A 3rd dad says his son is 17, almost 18, but has never worked, doesn't even have his driver's license - he said his son has no interest in driving or having a car, and that many kids at his high school are the same way - no interest in having a car or driving.


This is super common these days and absolutely blows my mind. I couldn't wait to drive. My parents were out of town when I turned 16 and I was livid I couldn't get my license for a few more days.

I don't get it at all. Sure, I know UberEats and whatnot exists, but don't they want to sneak off with their boyfriend/girlfriend or whatever? So foreign to me.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7606 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:41 am to
When I was in the 7th grade I wanted a telescope. Not one of the cheap toys like you see at walmert. I wanted a 6 inch Newtonian reflector with the equatorial mount. My Dad said I would have to work to get it. Not many part time jobs for 7th graders so my Dad showed me how to catch and clean catfish to sell to the local seafood market. I borrowed my Dad's pirogue and I caught enough to buy that telescope.

I was driving when I was 11. In rural Louisiana you can get away with that and Dad was riding shotgun. I saved for a used car not just to be able to drive but to date the women and score. I don't know how young teenage guys can score without a car and not seeming to want one. How do they get a girlfriend ?
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6435 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:43 am to
quote:

One of the dads says his teenage son is old enough to work but doesn't because he has to focus on too many extracirricular activities for his college applications.


I knew like three kids in my graduating class that worked during the school year. We had summer jobs and that was about it.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25812 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:43 am to
I have two teens. One who just graduated. He had to quit his part time job to focus on school. He had about 4-6 hours of homework each night during the week, including weekend assignments. I never had this much homework when I was in HS
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82689 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:55 am to
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And if I’m being honest.. I probably wouldn’t have worked in high school either if I didn’t need gas money. I guess the new play is to make them pay for their own data plan or something.



For sure. I don't even necessarily think it is crucial that high school kids work, assuming they have other enrichment activities to fill their free time.

It's the college students that boggle my mind. Working in customer facing jobs from 16 years old and up made a huge difference in how I turned out. In a lot of ways. From having connections to later get "real" jobs post-college.. to being able to interact with clients effectively.. to having empathy and compassion for service workers in my personal life.

One of my childhood best friends graduated college at 23 years old and it took her an entire year to find an office setting job because she was 23 years old and had never held a job in her life so she had a blank resume.

I don't blame her since her parents never made her work, but it set her back for a long time being unable to work her way up throughout her 20s. Unless you went to school for something like engineering that prepares you for a specific role, not working for years as an 18+ adult means you may not even be clearing $50k when you're 30 years old.
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 12:01 pm
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