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Are today's teenagers being less likely to work the real cause of the labor shortage?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:26 pm
Talking to some dads in the sauna at my gym this morning because the small waterpark at my gym is only open 3 days a week because they can't find enough lifeguards. Another local waterpark I grew up going to is also only open on Saturday/Sunday for the same reason, when usually its open 7 days a week in the summer. A popular burger restaurant is only open Thursday-Sunday because they can't find workers.
One of the dads says his teenage son is old enough to work but doesn't because he has to focus on too many extracirricular activities for his college applications.
A 2nd dad said he can't get his son to do anything these days, all his son wants to do is play video games or sit on the couch on his phone. He said he tried bringing his son to an Astros game and his son wanted nothing to do with it and bitched the whole game.
A 3rd dad says his son is 17, almost 18, but has never worked, doesn't even have his driver's license - he said his son has no interest in driving or having a car, and that many kids at his high school are the same way - no interest in having a car or driving. Which is the main reason(at least when I went to high school in the mid 2000s) that high school workers have jobs - to buy a car and pay for gas/insurance/upkeep for the car.
With teenagers these days not wanting to drive, the main motivation to work isn't there, and then you have lazy kids who only want to play video games and play on their phones, and kids who are so worried about college applications they don't have time to work, your teenage workforce is smaller.
In my day in the mid 2000s everyone at my high school had a job. I went to a more privileged well to do high school with plenty of kids who had rich parents so its not like it was a bunch of poor kids trying to help their families. Not many needed a job but we all worked anyway. Whether it be just a summer job or a year round job.
So if these teenagers these days are too lazy to work because they'd rather play video games or just don't want to work in general, why would they want to work after college? I worry about a lack of work ethic for their generation.
One of the dads says his teenage son is old enough to work but doesn't because he has to focus on too many extracirricular activities for his college applications.
A 2nd dad said he can't get his son to do anything these days, all his son wants to do is play video games or sit on the couch on his phone. He said he tried bringing his son to an Astros game and his son wanted nothing to do with it and bitched the whole game.
A 3rd dad says his son is 17, almost 18, but has never worked, doesn't even have his driver's license - he said his son has no interest in driving or having a car, and that many kids at his high school are the same way - no interest in having a car or driving. Which is the main reason(at least when I went to high school in the mid 2000s) that high school workers have jobs - to buy a car and pay for gas/insurance/upkeep for the car.
With teenagers these days not wanting to drive, the main motivation to work isn't there, and then you have lazy kids who only want to play video games and play on their phones, and kids who are so worried about college applications they don't have time to work, your teenage workforce is smaller.
In my day in the mid 2000s everyone at my high school had a job. I went to a more privileged well to do high school with plenty of kids who had rich parents so its not like it was a bunch of poor kids trying to help their families. Not many needed a job but we all worked anyway. Whether it be just a summer job or a year round job.
So if these teenagers these days are too lazy to work because they'd rather play video games or just don't want to work in general, why would they want to work after college? I worry about a lack of work ethic for their generation.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:28 pm to blakelobbasteel
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Talking to some dads in the sauna at my gym
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:28 pm to blakelobbasteel
It's not just teens. We're trying to hire a FT nanny and finding someone who wants 40 hours a week+ is a PITA even at the top of the market. The labor situation is nuts in every sector.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:30 pm to blakelobbasteel
My boys probably didn't want to work but I made them work. If nothing else to learn the value of a dollar. Parents suck these days.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:31 pm to blakelobbasteel
There's some teeth to what you're saying, especially when content creators are making bank and then the crypto market doing what it did for 2 yrs...
I think this is their revolt, ours in the 2000s was getting into trouble and partying, this is how they are "being themselves"
I think this is their revolt, ours in the 2000s was getting into trouble and partying, this is how they are "being themselves"
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:31 pm to blakelobbasteel
Who bought these kids their video games if they have no job and no source of income?
They need life lessons that make them realize work leads to income which pays for things. If the parents are willing to pay for things the kids want then they shouldnt complain about them being lazy. Or, they need to find some other way to teach them hard work.
They need life lessons that make them realize work leads to income which pays for things. If the parents are willing to pay for things the kids want then they shouldnt complain about them being lazy. Or, they need to find some other way to teach them hard work.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:33 pm to Slagathor
Dads 2&3 need to get out of the sauna and go get their kids’ heads on straight.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:34 pm to irishTiger18
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Who bought these kids' their video games if they have no job and no source of income?
They need life lessons that make them realize work leads to income which pays for things. If the parents are willing to pay for things the kids want then they shouldnt complain about them being lazy. Or, they need to find some other way to teach them hard work.
That's what I was wondering. The dad who complained his son does nothing but play video games, that's on him. Take the video games away from him and make him get a job.
I also don't see how needing to do so many extracirriculars is necessary.
But working is about learning the value of a dollar and the value of work. I started working at 15 and was able to buy a $2500 car with the money I saved up.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:34 pm to blakelobbasteel
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Another local waterpark I grew up going
Your privilege is showing
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:35 pm to blakelobbasteel
Scruffy keeps repeating that connectivity, technology, social media, etc., is a huge problem in the younger generation.
Take away video games and the phone. Make the teen pay for them himself.
Parents pay for everything, including car and insurance.
This isn’t complicated.
You appear to be blaming the kids for something solely due to the parents actions/inactions.
quote:That is on the father.
One of the dads says his teenage son is old enough to work but doesn't because he has to focus on too many extracirricular activities for his college applications.
quote:That is 100% on the father.
A 2nd dad said he can't get his son to do anything these days, all his son wants to do is play video games or sit on the couch on his phone.
Take away video games and the phone. Make the teen pay for them himself.
quote:Why would they want those things?
A 3rd dad says his son is 17, almost 18, but has never worked, doesn't even have his driver's license - he said his son has no interest in driving or having a car, and that many kids at his high school are the same way - no interest in having a car or driving. Which is the main reason(at least when I went to high school in the mid 2000s) that high school workers have jobs - to buy a car and pay for gas/insurance/upkeep for the car.
Parents pay for everything, including car and insurance.
This isn’t complicated.
quote:Considering the way in which some of you parents are raising your kids nowadays, why would it result in any other way?
So if these teenagers these days are too lazy to work because they'd rather play video games or just don't want to work in general, why would they want to work after college? I worry about a lack of work ethic for their generation.
You appear to be blaming the kids for something solely due to the parents actions/inactions.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:35 pm to blakelobbasteel
I'm also generally curious about the labor shortage. I think its a combo of
1A) Boomers retiring
1B) People realizing they dont need to work as much/at all to acquire/maintain their preferred QOL
2) Stimmy money satisfying basic needs
1B and 2 confuse me bc of how expensive things are getting and since stimmy money has to be running out
1A) Boomers retiring
1B) People realizing they dont need to work as much/at all to acquire/maintain their preferred QOL
2) Stimmy money satisfying basic needs
1B and 2 confuse me bc of how expensive things are getting and since stimmy money has to be running out
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:35 pm to Pettifogger
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It's not just teens. We're trying to hire a FT nanny and finding someone who wants 40 hours a week+ is a PITA even at the top of the market. The labor situation is nuts in every sector.
I think its a vacuum. There is a massive void caused by teenagers not working(as its teenagers who have traditionally filled positions life lifeguards, fast food workers, retail workers, and such) so the vacuum caused by a lack of teenage workforce affects every sector.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:35 pm to Slagathor
Who is behind this account? signed up June 22, 72 post and starts a thread saying he was in the sauna with some dads talking about kids.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:35 pm to blakelobbasteel
My high school job paid for gas, insurance, drugs, and liquor. If kids aren’t driving, whose paying for their drugs and alcohol? I don’t think we need to be blaming the 18 year olds, but blame the one’s who raised them. They don’t need a job because daddy pays for everything. Cut the tit like all parents did from 1776-2010. Helicopter parents have caused this, paying for their shite forever. Once you’re 17-18 you should only be asking your parents for money when shite hits the fan, school, or rent if your in school, that’s it. Groceries, luxuries, liquor, drugs, insurance, gas, utilities, they need to be paying.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:36 pm to Scruffy
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You appear to be blaming the kids for something solely due to the parents being in the sauna instead of at work
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:36 pm to blakelobbasteel
Whole lot of bad parenting in the Op's post. All three dads sound like pussies raising pussies.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:38 pm to blakelobbasteel
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One of the dads says his teenage son is old enough to work but doesn't because he has to focus on too many extracirricular activities for his college applications.
That's just stupid.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:39 pm to blakelobbasteel
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One of the dads says his teenage son is old enough to work but doesn't because he has to focus on too many extracirricular activities for his college applications.
reasonable.
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A 2nd dad said he can't get his son to do anything these days, all his son wants to do is play video games or sit on the couch on his phone
Sounds like he needs to be a Dad and not his best friend.
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A 3rd dad says his son is 17, almost 18, but has never worked, doesn't even have his driver's license -
See above.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:39 pm to Scruffy
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You appear to be blaming the kids for something solely due to the parents actions/inactions.
I completely agree with you - when I was 15, my parents drove me around to every store, restaurant, and such in the area and forced me to walk in and ask for an application even if they weren't hiring and even if they didn't hire 15 year olds. And I grew up in a pretty well off family. But, my parents told me my entire childhood they will not buy a car for me so if I want a car when I turn 16 I will have to pay for it myself. Started working at 15 at a local burger restaurant and banked my money.
Even the kids who did have parents buy them cars still worked. One girl I worked with at the pool I lifeguarded at got a brand new damned Mercedes convertible for her 16th birthday and still worked.
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