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re: Are today's teenagers being less likely to work the real cause of the labor shortage?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:39 pm to blakelobbasteel
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:39 pm to blakelobbasteel
It isn't the kids it's the parents these days that are to afraid to let their kids leave there house. They would rather little Johnny sit inside and be safe on his game then go out in the world and maybe get hurt.
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:39 pm to blakelobbasteel
The short answer is social media, women and lack of fatherly involvement.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:40 pm to blakelobbasteel
My oldest son is 15 and he works (some). It's not full time but I will make sure he works.
He started at the ballpark this season. Some days he's inside the concession stand and some days he's on clean-up / trash duty.
Starting probably next week - he will work 2 days a week mowing/ grounds-keeping... whatever they need.
I will not allow my sons (I have 2) to sit and be dead-weight. There is an entire world out there and money to be made.
There are multiple reasons for the labor shortage. It's not just - people not wanting to work. That's baloney...
People are making money. They've just found different ways of doing it than loading up and going to an endless job that they don't like.
He started at the ballpark this season. Some days he's inside the concession stand and some days he's on clean-up / trash duty.
Starting probably next week - he will work 2 days a week mowing/ grounds-keeping... whatever they need.
I will not allow my sons (I have 2) to sit and be dead-weight. There is an entire world out there and money to be made.
There are multiple reasons for the labor shortage. It's not just - people not wanting to work. That's baloney...
People are making money. They've just found different ways of doing it than loading up and going to an endless job that they don't like.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:40 pm to blakelobbasteel
quote:our youngest works and it is cheaper for him to Uber than pay for a car/insurance/gas/upkeep (not in BR).
high school workers have jobs - to buy a car and pay for gas/insurance/upkeep for the car.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:40 pm to blakelobbasteel
The issue isn't limited to just teenagers. I am trying to hire skilled workers and cannot even get people to apply for the position. Talking to others in the industry, and they are having the exact same issues. The people that would be eligible are int heir mid-30s+
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:41 pm to blakelobbasteel
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his son has no interest in driving
This to me is the most puzzling thing out of everything you just posted. I have spoken to teenagers who say the same thing and I find it super strange. Can anyone comment on why this is becoming more prevalent? Back in high school we LIVED to get that drivers license.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:41 pm to blakelobbasteel
the kids being lazy and playing games all day is on the dads. sorry. if my parents let me id do the same back when i was a kid.
the kids focusing on extracuric's i guess i can understand. i dont know though, as someone interviewing someone for college id rather see someone with a proving work ethic with actual work experience instead of a never ending list of pointless and ultimately worthless resume fodder.
the kids focusing on extracuric's i guess i can understand. i dont know though, as someone interviewing someone for college id rather see someone with a proving work ethic with actual work experience instead of a never ending list of pointless and ultimately worthless resume fodder.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:41 pm to Scruffy
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Scruffy keeps repeating that connectivity, technology, social media, etc., is a huge problem in the younger generation.
I rarely pay attention to your post or what people say to you, but am I the only one who think it sucks that you refer to yourself in the 3rd person?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:42 pm to blakelobbasteel
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:42 pm to irishTiger18
I think kids should be kids and shouldnt have to work a min wage job tirelessly after school and extra curriculars to afford getting pizza with friends on the weekends, but somehow they need to realize work affords them luxuries, fun things, and whatever they want to do in life.
They want to go on a beach trip with friends? well i need to see some effort on their part, like a summer job or common sense money/time management, before I'd open the check book and pay for it
They want to go on a beach trip with friends? well i need to see some effort on their part, like a summer job or common sense money/time management, before I'd open the check book and pay for it
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:43 pm to blakelobbasteel
I’ve worked with parents before who were terrified of taking things away from their kid (like a phone or video games) as punishment. I’m absolutely convinced it’s because they know at that point they can just shove their kid in front of a screen.
The problem isn’t the teens. It’s their parents and their refusal to parent their kids like they have some sense.
The problem isn’t the teens. It’s their parents and their refusal to parent their kids like they have some sense.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:43 pm to blakelobbasteel
sounds more like a problem with the parents than with the kdis
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:43 pm to Highheat
so much of social life now doesnt require physical presence: you can interact on the phone and on social media. Kids dont need to get in a car and drive to do x y and z. Its a little unfortunate but makes sense due to the times
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:43 pm to blakelobbasteel
All of these issues stem from our over-coddling of children these days.
Think about it, at what age do kids actually have to grow up in America? Every year there are more and more 30 year old children running around that don't know anything of responsibility or commitment or anything related to that.
Think about it, at what age do kids actually have to grow up in America? Every year there are more and more 30 year old children running around that don't know anything of responsibility or commitment or anything related to that.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:44 pm to wheelz007
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There are multiple reasons for the labor shortage. It's not just - people not wanting to work. That's baloney...
People are making money. They've just found different ways of doing it than loading up and going to an endless job that they don't like.
I think at one point there was truth to the whole "people are getting paid more to stay home" concept but its not the case anymore.
For old times sake this past weekend my sister and I went to a local burger joint she worked at in high school. The place was packed and they had the owner working the kitchen by herself and one guy taking orders at the counter. Of course the service was bad and took forever to get our orders(which were wrong when we got them) but I couldn't help but sympathize with them. When things died down my sister told the owner she used to work there and the owner sat with us for a bit and said she works 12 hours a week 6 days a week and closes the store on Mondays because its her and 2 part time employees and that's it. She said people she does hire end up quitting after 1 or 2 days and even then its rare to get people to apply at all. I felt bad for her but I agree there are too many parents out there who aren't making their kids work.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:44 pm to Highheat
quote:We didn’t have social media or iPhones.
we LIVED to get that drivers license.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:44 pm to blakelobbasteel
My son just graduated from a privileged school and he and most of his friends had summer jobs for the past 2 years.
IDK about the other kids, but if mine wants money to go out and blow on the weekends, he better have an income string to get it.
IDK about the other kids, but if mine wants money to go out and blow on the weekends, he better have an income string to get it.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:46 pm to Highheat
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This to me is the most puzzling thing out of everything you just posted. I have spoken to teenagers who say the same thing and I find it super strange. Can anyone comment on why this is becoming more prevalent? Back in high school we LIVED to get that drivers license.
My theory is that in our days if we wanted to socialize we had to drive somewhere to meet up, whether it be the mall or a fast food restaurant or someone's house.
Now they all socialize online, on their phones, via video games and social media. So there is no need to drive to someone's house or the mall to hang out.
I never see kids outside playing anymore. In fact when me and my sister were headed to that local burger joint she used to work at we saw two kids playing baseball in their front yard and we remarked at that.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:51 pm to blakelobbasteel
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One of the dads says his teenage son is old enough to work but doesn't because he has to focus on too many extracirricular activities for his college applications.
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A 2nd dad said he can't get his son to do anything these days, all his son wants to do is play video games or sit on the couch on his phone.
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A 3rd dad says his son is 17, almost 18, but has never worked, doesn't even have his driver's license - he said his son has no interest in driving or having a car,
Sounds more like the problem is with these "dads" not pushing their kids to work. The first is somewhat understandable (unless it's something like little Brayston having to play 365 days of travel ball so the father can live vicariously through them), but the other two?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 3:54 pm to blakelobbasteel
some of it is bullshite rules and regulations the working industry has now.
both of my sons were still 17 when they graduated high school and were looking for jobs to earn a little scratch in their pockets.
even jobs as simple as stocking shelves at Rouse or Walmart weren't available to them because "insurance doesn't allow anyone under 18 to use a box cutter".
These are the types of jobs me and my friends had as part timers still in school and 15 years old or so with no problems.
The only people who realistically are looking for these types of jobs are part time high schoolers, or retirees looking to supplement retirement. And they eliminate half of those right out the gate.
lot of oilfield type jobs want them to be 21 years old.
Oldest one found a job sweeping floors at an oilfield company until his 18th birthday when he would become eligible for a "real job" with the same damn company.
Youngest is currently 17, just graduated High School last month, and is working with an independent carpenter he found through a family friend.
Everywhere he went, he was either too young to be hired due to insurance, or they were looking for people with experience.
both of my sons were still 17 when they graduated high school and were looking for jobs to earn a little scratch in their pockets.
even jobs as simple as stocking shelves at Rouse or Walmart weren't available to them because "insurance doesn't allow anyone under 18 to use a box cutter".
These are the types of jobs me and my friends had as part timers still in school and 15 years old or so with no problems.
The only people who realistically are looking for these types of jobs are part time high schoolers, or retirees looking to supplement retirement. And they eliminate half of those right out the gate.
lot of oilfield type jobs want them to be 21 years old.
Oldest one found a job sweeping floors at an oilfield company until his 18th birthday when he would become eligible for a "real job" with the same damn company.
Youngest is currently 17, just graduated High School last month, and is working with an independent carpenter he found through a family friend.
Everywhere he went, he was either too young to be hired due to insurance, or they were looking for people with experience.
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