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Are there still people who believe that the virus came from the wet market?
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:13 pm
Or has everyone now accepted that it came from the Wuhan lab, whether released by accident or on purpose? Asking for a friend.
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Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:14 pm to SloaneRanger
I’ve gone back to eating bat soup like I used to
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:16 pm to SloaneRanger
Conspiracy theorists sure have plenty to gloat about recently.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:16 pm to SloaneRanger
Its a biological weapon
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:21 pm to SloaneRanger
From what I understand the bat species that the virus comes from isn’t sold in the wet market and comes from a region about 500 miles from Wuhan. But the Chinese lab that was studying this bat species, specifically viral infections of this species is located smack in the middle of Wuhan. So, tell me. Where do you think it came from?
As for the release of that virus, i have no idea if the initial outbreak in Wuhan was intentional. But here is what I do know.
1. China and the WHO both lied to the world as late as February claiming there was no evidence of human to human transmission of the virus.
2. China halted all domestic travel to and from Wuhan but allowed international travel. So someone in Wuhan could not travel to say Beijing, but they could travel to places like America, Europe, or anywhere else in the world except China. Considering they knew they had an outbreak, one they were lying to the world about, why do you suppose they would shutdown domestic travel but allow international travel to and from Wuhan?
BTW, if your gonna downvote my post, at least have the balls to explain what I’ve said that you disapprove of.
As for the release of that virus, i have no idea if the initial outbreak in Wuhan was intentional. But here is what I do know.
1. China and the WHO both lied to the world as late as February claiming there was no evidence of human to human transmission of the virus.
2. China halted all domestic travel to and from Wuhan but allowed international travel. So someone in Wuhan could not travel to say Beijing, but they could travel to places like America, Europe, or anywhere else in the world except China. Considering they knew they had an outbreak, one they were lying to the world about, why do you suppose they would shutdown domestic travel but allow international travel to and from Wuhan?
BTW, if your gonna downvote my post, at least have the balls to explain what I’ve said that you disapprove of.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:27 pm to SloaneRanger
I heard a news story today that some US scientists are saying it didn’t come from a laboratory. I suppose it doesn’t matter what the truth is, both sides will just use it to push their political agendas
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:30 pm to Spankum
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I suppose it doesn’t matter what the truth is, both sides will just use it to push their political agendas
It does matter what the truth is. And it’s glaringly obvious to anyone with a lick of common sense what that truth really is.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:32 pm to SloaneRanger
So you think it couldn't have gone from the lab to the wet market?
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:32 pm to SloaneRanger
Almost as disturbing as the virus is the discovery of how many stupid and paranoid folks are walking our streets.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:34 pm to SloaneRanger
To me, whether it came from a wet market or was accidentally released from a lab doesn’t make much difference. Either way, China lied, tried to conceal the truth, etc. China is 100% responsible for this mess. The wet markets are barbaric places that should be eradicated.
Now, if it was intentionally released, that’s an act of war and a whole other discussion.
Now, if it was intentionally released, that’s an act of war and a whole other discussion.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:38 pm to TigerBR1111
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Almost as disturbing as the virus is the discovery of how many stupid and paranoid folks are walking our streets.
I don't claim to know the answer. I have my suspicions but that is all they are. But I continue to be amazed at the people who can't even consider the possibility that this might have escaped from the Wuhan lab. In my view, it is not a far fetched possibility. The lack of intellectual curiosity on this important issue is something to behold.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:41 pm to Darth_Vader
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From what I understand the bat species that the virus comes from isn’t sold in the wet market and comes from a region about 500 miles from Wuhan.
They haven’t confirmed it came directly from a bat, much less a particular species of bat.
Also, don’t ignore the possibility that the Wuhan index patient was someone who got infected in rural China, spread it at the market, and then went home. People seem to be equating the fact that tracing is centered there that it is claimed the virus started there.
China partitions who is allowed to live in the city or near it, but that’s where the money is. So rural farmers travel a long way to sell wares sometimes.
Personally that’s my vote.
80% chance it was a novel rural virus that entered the urban world via market meeting with people.
20% chance it was a novel rural virus being evaluated and characterized in the level 2 segment of the lab and got out via crappy practices.
0% chance it was an engineered virus.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:42 pm to SloaneRanger
I have better use for my curiosity but get back to us when you get to the bottom of it.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:47 pm to Darth_Vader
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From what I understand the bat species that the virus comes from isn’t sold in the wet market and comes from a region about 500 miles from Wuhan. But the Chinese lab that was studying this bat species, specifically viral infections of this species is located smack in the middle of Wuhan. So, tell me. Where do you think it came from?
It's entirely possible the virus spread to another animal that IS in the wet market, though, such as a pangolin.
Nobody knows for sure.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:48 pm to Volvagia
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0% chance it was an engineered virus
It’s a very small chance...but not 0%.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:51 pm to el Gaucho
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I’ve gone back to eating bat soup like I used to
Al dente?
Posted on 5/2/20 at 4:18 pm to SloaneRanger
I am confident we have a 0% chance of learning where the virus came from.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 4:22 pm to SloaneRanger
I thought it was common knowledge that the first case was in the lab and spread like fire in the market. So no the virus didn’t start in the market but yes those were some of its first victims.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 4:22 pm to Kennerkarl
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It’s a very small chance...but not 0%.
It’s a small chance along the lines in that according to the laws of physics there is a very small chance of probability your atoms can quantum barrier tunnel through the seat of your car at any given time.
There is not a shred of legit molecular biology data to support the engineered hypothesis.
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