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re: Allison Rice murder investigation

Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25912 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:10 pm to
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Plenty of other discrepancies like the 10 minute thing. Now her dad's on the news saying he told him it was less than one minute...which is it?


Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25912 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:13 pm to
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It's not her job to vet witnesses. A potential witness came to her and she talked to him. If the PD says he's full of shite, that's fine. If they haven't even talked to him, that's unacceptable.


On the one hand, I agree with you, but on the other I think and hope she did some vetting, considering her history with BRPD and the mutual animosity between the parties.
Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1353 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:18 pm to
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Where's the other witness, his passenger? Why hasn't he come forward? Did she even interview him? Why are the cops saying there is no witness? Plenty of other discrepancies like the 10 minute thing. Now her dad's on the news saying he told him it was less than one minute...which is it?

I was skeptical of the witness at first because he said he was the only witness then mentioned he had a friend in the car. However, he has talked to at least 5 people - his mother, Kiran, The Shed owner, Allie’s dad and a BRPD officer he named outright. He also named some names of people he spoke with at BRPD while trying to reach a detective.

He’s given his phone number to The Shed owner and Allie’s dad. His mother has called BRPD also. If it’s a hoax he’s fully committed to it.

Regardless, Murphy Paul said he thinks the witness doesn’t exist while all of these other people, including one of his officers, have talked to him. Instead of following this lead all of the way and either finding the witness credible and protecting him or determining he’s not credible and saying so, he (Murphy Paul) is content to ignore it completely.

If the witness was a DD the second guy he could have been drunk AF or passed out. That’s what BRPD should be determining.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5934 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:29 pm to
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skeptical of the witness


BRPD could easily verify his story with cellphone data.. and then easily verify when the train was stopped and moving since there is a camera on the lead engine. It is just incompetency from the top down (SWB & MP), there is no desire to solve this case, because it will not help her get reelected. Instead MP wants to give the gangbangers a heads up they will be in their neighborhoods. So guess what the gangbangers will do, move to the spots that MP just essentially informed them BRPD will not be focusing on. Instead of MP telling the gangs what BRPD is "about" to do, why not have sweep and actually get the gangbangers off the street before the problem. No initiative, just reactionary tactics. Nothing BRPD does makes sense.

Back to the witness..My theory is BRPD is automatically writing him off because him and the passenger had been out drinking.. so that is what they are hiding behind.
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:31 pm to
Y’all put enough money together one of em’s mama will turn em in.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
55881 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:33 pm to
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My theory is BRPD is automatically writing him off because him and the passenger had been out drinking.. so that is what they are hiding behind.


Again, if that’s the case that’s fine
But Paul could have easily said the witness information is not credible, does not support evidence at the scene, anything to show they are doing their job
Instead he chose to say he didn’t believe there was actually a witness
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
5261 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:55 pm to
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Main issue with Hillar being replaced is finding a candidate who can beat him that won’t get edged out by whatever lowlife sack of shite is run on the same platform that the NO DA used.

Maybe I’m being overly optimistic but I don’t think a Jason Williams type will fly in this parish.

Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:56 pm to
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Another way the reward works is that it puts pressure on the suspects (if there’s more than one) to turn themselves in because they get scared that someone will rat them out to collect the reward. The suspect will say that he wasn’t the trigger man and will try to get a deal to testify against his buddy.


Exactly. As soon as we found out there were 2 suspects I knew the reward was the most important thing we could do.

Hopefully the guy tagging along doesn’t get whacked before he talks.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:00 pm to
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I think national gangs are embarrassed to be involved with these morons. Just look at the names.


I always thought Orgeron’s street gang The Rozy Finch Boyz was a great name
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13963 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:04 pm to
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If this alleged witness was somehow conjured up then why does the owner of the Shed have the telephone number of the witness? Moreover, the owner of the Shed voluntarily offered to text MP the information, where MP refuses to respond back.

That’s an awful lot of work where it makes zero sense why anyone would lie about there being a witness to the murder.


I'm talking about the passenger, not the driver. And people come out of the woodwork and lie about high profile crimes all the time. They'll even come in and "confess" to it
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46765 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:29 pm to
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Where's the other witness, his passenger? Why hasn't he come forward?


How do you know he hasn't?

quote:

Why are the cops saying there is no witness?

That's a great question, Baw. We know that the witness has spoken to at least two detectives. Why would MP lie, and why would Sharon Hyphen Broome insult the Shed owner with her recording bullshite? Was she saying things that she was going to say later that she didn't?

I thought Pat Englade had the worst PR on the planet. These M'effers are bellicose, obtuse and learning arrogance from Destroya.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9793 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:32 pm to

“Ghost Gang Gang, Central City”

Just in case you aren’t sure they’re a gang.


“Ride or Die Gang,”
Edgy.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25387 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:46 pm to
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Nakamoto

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103860 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:50 pm to
You would think, yet SWB got elected and re-elected.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:59 pm to
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My theory is BRPD is automatically writing him off because him and the passenger had been out drinking.. so that is what they are hiding behind.

I believe this could be the issue. A drunk witness will get dragged in court.
Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
3097 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:00 pm to
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I believe this could be the issue. A drunk witness will get dragged in court.


No way they can prove that the witness was out drinking.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103860 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:02 pm to
There may be ways to prove they were in a bar and got served but not they were drunk.

No BAC testing done? Can’t prove drunkenness. Hell, in this city, even when you are clearly pissing your pants and drunk you can argue it was poorly calibrated.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35477 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:03 pm to
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I believe this could be the issue. A drunk witness will get dragged in court.


This is not the issue at all.

I don't believe the witness ever claimed to be able to identify the suspects or pick them out of a line-up.

Even drunk, their testimony would be valuable just for a general idea of what transpired.

Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:13 pm to
If he admitted to the police that he was...
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25387 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:25 pm to
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If he admitted to the police that he was...



::MP gets the cuffs::

"Well then - sounds like we're about to get another hardened criminal off the streets..." (cuffs kid) "It's ok, everyone. I'm no hero. I'm just doing my job. But tonight, you can rest assured. Baton Rouge is a much safer town."
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