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Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:28 am to SECdragonmaster
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This is the most "utopian fluff" plan I have ever seen considered.
This just HAS to be a politician's way of placating the masses while fully knowing good and well this will never come to fruition. This has PR stunt written all over it.
What may be more appropriate however, would be for social workers to get involved at the booking process in the jails and possibly make recommendations to the judges at the point of arraignment.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:40 am to member12
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Albuquerque to send unarmed social workers, not police officers, to some 911 calls
I’ve seen a lot of dumb shite the past few weeks and this one is really up there.
Domestic disturbances and dealing with drug addicts are one of the most dangerous calls a cop can respond to.
There will be blood on the lefts hands when whoever gets killed as a result of this idiocy.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:47 am to LSUJML
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What happens when she gets beat, raped or killed?
They tell her she was just having her privilege removed through an unplanned sex donation
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:48 am to member12
Why not have the social workers go WITH the cops? Or actually have a specialized division of the cops with the appropriate credentials to handle these cases that is compensated at a better rate?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 8:56 am to SECdragonmaster
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I cannot believe there are people gullible enough to believe this will be safe for anyone involved.
It’s what happens when the Tide Pod generation makes policy from the streets
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:02 am to St Augustine
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Or actually have a specialized division of the cops with the appropriate credentials to handle these cases that is compensated at a better rate?
Hm, you mean have a better trained police force and actually pay them more? Brilliant!
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:05 am to member12
More investment into the vetting and training of our actual police officers in combatant situations so that they don't react emotionally but instead fall back on their training would be a much better solution.
I'm all about the demilitarization of the police, but like everything we are swinging the pendulum 180 degrees the opposite direction when only a marginal correction was needed.
I'm all about the demilitarization of the police, but like everything we are swinging the pendulum 180 degrees the opposite direction when only a marginal correction was needed.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:19 am to SECdragonmaster
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This is the most "utopian fluff" plan I have ever seen considered.
Based on the assumptions made in this thread, you're right. For some reason, everyone thinks we're going to have 23yo female fresh-out-of-school graduates heading into potentially volatile situations with no backup, no form of self-defense, and doing so alone. The chances that this is the ACTUAL plan, are slim to none. But what fun is it to use common sense on a message board when there's something to bitch about?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:20 am to member12
I asked my mom, who works as a mental health therapist, what she thinks about these ideas.
Her response, she used to work as a dfcs officer, going to different homes to check on the welfare of the children. For one call, she had a gun pulled out on her by the mother. That was the last day she ever did that job.
Even now she just works iñ an office setting where clients come to see her. She says she has been advocating for years for there to be an on-site police officer or armed security guard who works in the building. As there has been numerous times a client has started acting irrationally and/or violent and made her feel unsafe.
There's no way in hell she would ever take this job, even if she was younger. She says the only professionals that would take this job are 22 year olds fresh from college with a psychology degree who couldn't get a job elsewhere.
Her response, she used to work as a dfcs officer, going to different homes to check on the welfare of the children. For one call, she had a gun pulled out on her by the mother. That was the last day she ever did that job.
Even now she just works iñ an office setting where clients come to see her. She says she has been advocating for years for there to be an on-site police officer or armed security guard who works in the building. As there has been numerous times a client has started acting irrationally and/or violent and made her feel unsafe.
There's no way in hell she would ever take this job, even if she was younger. She says the only professionals that would take this job are 22 year olds fresh from college with a psychology degree who couldn't get a job elsewhere.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:33 am to QJenk
In Memphis the counselors were escorted to their cars 24/7. Not because of current patients but the previous ones or families
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:35 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Based on the assumptions made in this thread, you're right
Those assumptions didn't come out of thin air, they are logical based on the fact that the same Leftists advocating this sort of nonsense are without exception, batzhit crazy.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:38 am to St Augustine
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Or actually have a specialized division of the cops with the appropriate credentials to handle these cases that is compensated at a better rate?
I agree. Highly trained and specialized police. Pay accordingly. Involve social workers as needed, but keep them protected. Often social workers can’t keep up with their current case loads and can’t effectively do their jobs. So we add more cases, putting them in potentially dangerous situations? Good luck getting quality people to do this.
It also needs to be easier to commit drug addicts and the mentally ill.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:47 am to St Augustine
quote:They can't create positions with higher pay rates when protesters are trying to "defund" the police.
Why not have the social workers go WITH the cops? Or actually have a specialized division of the cops with the appropriate credentials to handle these cases that is compensated at a better rate?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:52 am to RT1941
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They can't create positions with higher pay rates when protesters are trying to "defund" the police.
This idea is quite literally what the poorly labeled "defund the police" deal is all about. Reduce budgets for armed police and invest in alternative forms of community service. Why they chose "defund", I don't know. It's more of a reorganization, or reallocation, or reform, not a pure defunding of LE.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:55 am to mmmmmbeeer
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The chances that this is the ACTUAL plan, are slim to none.
You are in such denial.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:14 am to QJenk
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Her response, she used to work as a dfcs officer, going to different homes to check on the welfare of the children. For one call, she had a gun pulled out on her by the mother. That was the last day she ever did that job.
I was about to say, even now a social workers job can be very dangerous depending on the situation.
No matter the job it would be unnerving to go into an unknown situation especially in a residence.
Now I could see the program being beneficial. I wouldn't think these social workers would be sent on 2AM calls and obvious dangerous situations. But paired with a police officer they could maybe help deescalate a situation.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:16 am to RT1941
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They can't create positions with higher pay rates when protesters are trying to "defund" the police.
you do realize cities have already done the "defund the police" thing in the past and this is exactly what they have done?
either create new departments to do what the police were already doing or they just get the state/feds to do it
defund the police is just pandering
nothing changes other than the name on the side of the car
Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:17 am to greenwave
One of the most dangerous calls for a cop is domestic violence. Good luck social workers...
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