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60 minutes on Legal Weed Farms/Industry in California

Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:09 pm
Anyone else watching this 60 minutes special on legal marijuana? It’s a wonderful example of why everyone who says legalize it and strictly regulate it is doomed to fail due to government red tape.

Apparently it’s illegal to sell weed grown in CA outside of CA, so there is a 15,000,000 lb (I think) surplus of weed
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18646 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:10 pm to
Trump needs to remove weed from the controlled substances scheduling in 2020

Remove all federal prohibition and leave it to the states
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:11 pm to
Mike Tyson is investing in the business. With his business savvy moves you know it is a business poised to make history.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26593 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:13 pm to
Red tape is a serious issue, but the true problem is that those in the industry are trying to navigate the regulations just as much as the regulators. There are very few people who actually have a working understanding of how the industry operates, and even then it’s changing on a daily basis.

Zoning, neighborhood/city meetings, the capital it takes to even get your foot in the door, not to mention dealing with the application process with the CCC, is all a nightmare. Of the hundreds trying to get in, maybe dozens will make it over the next few years.

In time, things will get more or less figured out. But those who have already broken through and opened up with a license, whether that be dispensary or cultivation, have a distinct leg up.

But legalization and regulation is good not only for the seller, but for the consumer as well. To think otherwise is idiotic.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 7:26 pm
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

It’s a wonderful example of why everyone who says legalize it and strictly regulate it is doomed to fail due to government red tape.




Legalized weed in California has been anything but a failure, judging by the dank arse clouds I walk through on a daily basis
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:15 pm to
In
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37549 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:15 pm to
I agree with you. It shouldn’t be considered the same as heroin but should be considered the same as alcohol.

It really was an eye opening report on weed where the host interviewed a giant processor, a small farmer, and a cop. It appears that due to the over regulation of pot dispensaries (each city can veto whether one opens in their limits or not) has made it so that margins for the farmers and processors are tighter than hell.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 7:16 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Apparently it’s illegal to sell weed grown in CA outside of CA, so there is a 15,000,000 lb (I think) surplus of weed

federal delisting will solve that problem instantly. Oregon is already exporting their surplus. All those midwestern and NE states that are legalizing will have to import. Canada will need product as well
Posted by EmperorGout
I hate all of you.
Member since Feb 2008
11271 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

It really was an eye opening report on weed where the host interviewed a giant processor, a small farmer, and a cop. It appears that due to the over regulation of pot dispensaries (each city can veto whether one opens in their limits or not) has made it so that margins for the farmers and processors are tighter than hell.



You've sold me. Time to make it illegal again
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55700 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

15,000,000 lb (I think) surplus of weed
i can help
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71482 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Apparently it’s illegal to sell weed grown in CA outside of CA, so there is a 15,000,000 lb (I think) surplus of weed


You mean you cant traffic illegal drugs across state lines and the federal government has laws about it?!

FWIW, that's sarcasm for OP and I'm a MMJ card holder. Illinois about to fall on its face come Jan 1st when rec is legal.

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49305 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:23 pm to
That's why you need a national level of legalization. Right now it's all fricked up because of a little bastard known as the supremacy clause. Not to mention it's illegal in most states which makes transportation very difficult
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43155 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:25 pm to
And the weed growers and consumers are mostly liberals in favor of big government. Ironic isn’t it?
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:28 pm to
You must not know many weed consumers. Or you probably do and they don’t want you to know.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14838 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:33 pm to
Bottom line is there are still way too many regulations.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25879 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

And the weed growers and consumers are mostly liberals in favor of big government. Ironic isn’t it?


Growers would tend more to the anti-authoritarian/damn near anarchist world view, I would imagine. I won't speak to the consumers because that's a far too large swath of America to generalize.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25702 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

It’s a wonderful example of why everyone who says legalize it and strictly regulate it is doomed to fail due to government red tape.


I don't think that is the case. It is a new legal industry that is still illicit on the Federal level and has varying laws from state to state. When one of the country's largest AG states with some of the best outdoor grow climates goes legal in this environment there is going to be a surplus.

Regarding regulation, there is bound to be teething issues and unintended consequences again the State vs Fed conundrum is part of it and the baning issues are far from the least of that.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43155 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:46 pm to
I know tons
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20484 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

federal delisting will solve that problem instantly


That’s a huge assumption. Weed is grown is Mexico and plenty of places that aren’t ideal crop growing environments. You have the entire midwest that could start growing weed. It’s not like a state like even Minnesota doesn’t have plenty of crop acreage to grow their own weed in 4 months to last them the entire year.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17970 posts
Posted on 10/27/19 at 8:11 pm to
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Mike Tyson is investing in the business.

But not in California, tyson farms operates in Nevada. Smoked some of his shite a couple weeks back. Honestly, overrated af... as is most commercially mass produced product where quantity is regarded as quality.
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