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re: 17 year old solo student pilot lands her plane without one wheel - it fell off on takeoff

Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:17 am to
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
2161 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:17 am to
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17 year old solo student pilot lands her plane without one wheel - it fell off on takeoff by sec13rowBBseat28
Just curious, whats the difference between a Cessna 172 and a Piper Cherokee? I know absolutely nothing about airplanes.


You can land at much slower speeds in that type of Cessna....my dad used to fly one and we'd land on grass strips...my guess is 30mph, all kinds of stall alarms going off, but we could just float down...he flys a Cirrus SR22 now, looks more like that Cherokee..you land fast, can't see shite and it terrifies me
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42714 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:19 am to
I believe it’s similar to a car in that it depends on the damage
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118270 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:28 am to
SHUT THE frick UP DOUCHE BAG
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:28 am to
Dude give it a fricking rest
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22313 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:30 am to
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that's a crash, a good crash, but a still a crash


any landing you can walk away from is a great landing.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:32 am to
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any landing you can walk away from is a great landing.


every landing is just a controlled crash
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7201 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:37 am to
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might be biased, but I think every beginner needs to start with fixed gear, above the fuselage wings. And I have never in my life heard of gear falling off a plane. Sounds like someone wrecked that thing before she got in it or the parents did a shitty job of maintenance. Either way, a walk around should have clued her, or her instructor, into the problem. These are the things PILOTS are supposed tp prevent before they get into the air.


The older model I flew had fixed gear. The newer models mostly have retractable though, I believe. I haven't looked close enough to see which is the case here. Depending on what happened, it may or may not have been something noticeable. You'd think something would have to be seriously wrong and obvious, for a wheel to fall out, but not necessarily. I have no idea about the maintenance they did, no point in assuming anything. Like I said before, this will be heavily investigated and whether it's maintenance will be discovered. Sometimes serious shite happens that can't be planned for. And sometimes people successfully pull through the situation....props to her.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118270 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:37 am to
BE QUIET
BE QUIET
WILL YOU BE QUIET?
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
4243 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:40 am to
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I might be biased
I'd say thats pretty clear
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:41 am to
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You can land at much slower speeds in that type of Cessna


yep, and there is a good reason almost every flight school starts people off in Cessnas. They are easy to fly, stable and dependable. Basically the Honda Accords of the air.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 7:43 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:41 am to
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She's already crashed her first aircraft at the age of 17.


Technically and factually, the plane crashed her, a-hole.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36241 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:50 am to
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In a Piper Cherokee, worst situation I ever faced was having to land in the dark with no lights. Everything went dark during the flight and communications were lost. Luckily it was an older model with mechanical gauges and there were two of us. Used a cell phone flash light to see the critical gauges.
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Steadyhands
Checks out.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17960 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:53 am to
I went snow skiing in Japan and when I was going up on the ski lift one of my skis fell off. It was the second time I'd ever skied. I was nervous at first but my wingman talked me thru it. Matter of fact it was my first run without ever falling. So there's that.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:55 am to
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or some dead serious pre-solo private student type. Either way, stand the frick up and tell us about yourself Yeager.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:58 am to
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that's a crash, a good crash, but a still a crash


AN old saying in avation goes like this

A decent landing is one that you can walk away from alive.

A good landing is one that you walk away from alive and the plane can be repaired with no problem at all.

A great landing is one where you walk away alive and the plan can immediately be used again.
Posted by latech15
Member since Aug 2015
1291 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:58 am to
That plane has a fixed gear. The pipe Cherokee line is second behind the Cessna in the number of trainers out there, but that is still 1000's of them being used as primary trainers. It isn't like she skipped the trainer and went to a jet. I soloed plenty of times without my instructor helping with the walk around, if you don't know what you are looking for, this could be a very difficult thing to find on a preflight.

Just an FYI - this plane has been wrecked before in 1994. Collided with a snowbank upon landing.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:01 am to
private pilot 20 years ago, instrument rated. Nothing special, but I've never wrecked an aircraft and looked for praise (never wrecked one period). Instructor when I got my PP was 18years old, and he never would have missed faulty landing gear before my solo. This girl did a good job landing her aircraft, but the problem never should have been one. Pilots find all kinds of problems with their aircraft before taking off, and don't do it. That's what makes you a PILOT and not a chump.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 8:07 am
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:02 am to
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Nothing special,

you've made that very apparent
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:05 am to
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Nothing special, but I've never wrecked an aircraft and looked for praise (never wrecked one period).


She didn't wreck an aircraft. She handled a catastrophic failure as PIC. At age 17. While taking off on her solo cross-country. A landing gear failure with full fuel tanks.

If you don't see pilot material there, then I don't believe you are one.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5773 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:07 am to
Getting a gift card for 3 flights lessons as a Christmas present doesn’t make you an expert.
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